Constructive and destructive criticism (again)

[bri h]

If you read back in my post, you'll see I was discreet enough not to mention names. I don't have ANY problems with EITHER of you. I did then, briefly, but not now. And especially not you Dawn.
I don't bear grudges, they waste time, and nothing gets resolved. I only mentioned how I felt at the time. How can what I said be deemed 'a hi-jack?'
I'm a would-be-writer
I (felt) I was verbally-abused.

Relevant to the thread. IMO. 

[Dawn]

Because this is about critiquing not about if a mod is doing things correctly.

This isn't personal, Brian, but you do obviously still have issues unresolved hence why I said you should speak to Nick or a mod about it. Airing it on this thread is not the right thing to do IMO.

Perhaps, it is also worth pointing out that Industry professionals come on this forum all the time.

[bri h]

"They ain't lookin at me kid!"
What would they want with a wagon-driving-wannabee? B

[protekme]

There is a difference between having thick skin and receiving a personal attack Pro. 

You can give a critique without belittling the author, that's all we ask.

I understand, and I'm also glad that the mods are interfering. I was in the dark as well about personal attack. I felt harsh, disrespectful critiques going on though, and I received some of it. I'm not saying that it is acceptable because I can take it, but that I feel sorry for the ones who can't and left because of it.

[Don]

Nick, thank you for pointing out the difference. Timely reminders are always a plus.

I doubt there is anyone here who can claim to have been unaware, but even the best of us have to be slapped upside the head with the obvious on occasion.

Don -

[Vienna]

I have had some harsh crits in my time here: Yamrus, and Eric, for example, have ripped pieces to bits BUT there were never any personal attacks. THAT is what this is about!

[protekme]

I have had some harsh crits in my time here: Yamrus, and Eric, for example, have ripped pieces to bits BUT there were never any personal attacks. THAT is what this is about!

Is it a personal attack when someone says: you'll never get published. Your piece is boring and will not attract any readers.

I take it as an opinion and discard it, but someone who takes it and gets hurt and leaves the forum because his self confidence is shut, is he wrong?

[Dawn]

Peeps this thread is going round and round. We should now all understand the meaning of a constructive critique. Let's just leave it there shall we?

[Vienna]

Is it a personal attack when someone says: you'll never get published. Your piece is boring and will not attract any readers.

I take it as an opinion and discard it, but someone who takes it and gets hurt and leaves the forum because his self confidence is shut, is he wrong?

it is a personal attack when I mentioned that I had written something while my young lad was sitting on my knee and the comment was " looks like you were breastfeeding when you typed this" Or because I had typed it quickly (Typos, mistakes)  the comment was " I am surprised that you are an english teacher"

[protekme]

it is a personal attack when I mentioned that I had written something while my young lad was sitting on my knee and the comment was " looks like you were breastfeeding when you typed this" Or because I had typed it quickly (Typos, mistakes)  the comment was " I am surprised that you are an english teacher"

I understand. 

[ma100]

Oh my gawd.

Listen guys, you all have had issues we understand that. Some were reported, most were not. Mods step in on reports or if we come across contentious situations.

Most times the person complained about is contacted behind scenes, but sometimes it spills on the boards. Now I don't know about you guys, but I don't want to spend another night looking into reams of posts to gather proof from the he said/ she said game. Last night was quite enough.

Lets just remember nobody is perfect on here. We all have our off days.  

Bottom line is if you feel you are being attacked contact a mod.
If you feel one of the mods is out of line contact another mod or Nick.

If you think the mods can dive through cyber space and give you a slap through your screen contact Space station zero.   Though it might be worth getting the techies working on it.

[Vienna]

oreet I am contacting a Mod now!


Lock it eh?

[bri h]

If you think the mods can dive through cyber space and give you a slap through your screen contact Space station zero.  Shocked Though it might be worth getting the techies working on it.

 

Be careful drivin thru Lee' s Ma. I'm back driving the wagons again and I have a good aim.

 

[2par]

I guess some people are more disturbed by this issue than others. I just think we ought to calm down and trust each other from now on and stop looking for revenge. This is a nice site. We're very much like family here. Let's let bygones be bygones so that we can forgive and forget.

[ma100]

What a nice comment and on that note I am locking this thread rather than it doing another circle.  .