2nd draft and editors

[ed]

Want to just get feedback from those what you tend to be looking for, changing or working on in your 2nd draft? ( are you pretty much reading it through and adding more description, taking out description, fixing grammar issues etc?)

Also anyone using any good editors. I know lin mentioned one and I will probably contact them but interested in knowing who you have used in the past

Also what you think is a good price to pay for editor for a novel that is around 75,000 words?

cheers

[ed]

I'll add any resources I find that I thought were useful

This one was quite good for after 1st draft

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CFgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdarcypattison.com%2FAfterTheFirstDraft.pdf&ei=E9IzUPTqJsPkywH0ooAI&usg=AFQjCNE7jae8lnSyeZ-_PRwl7B7ikv61LQ

[ed]

Amazing how much you see when you convert your doc to a PDF and then read it. I do this with my clients work before handing it to them and 100% of the time find errors.

Its like PDF shows your writing in a slightly different view

[heidi52]

Sad to say, reading a printout of the PDF will often point out even more.

I think the computer hides some of them. 

[ed]

Sad to say, reading a printout of the PDF will often point out even more.

I think the computer hides some of them. 

May do that down at  local store, would cost a fair packet printing 300 odd pages off

[510bhan]

May do that down at  local store, would cost a fair packet printing 300 odd pages off

 . . . and you will do it a few times over if you want to give your mss a thorough check.

Usually after what you think is your final draft and then maybe just some individual pages . . . if you haven't wrecked your page numbering system when you print off the final, final draft.

[ed]

. . . and you will do it a few times over if you want to give your mss a thorough check.

Usually after what you think is your final draft and then maybe just some individual pages . . . if you haven't wrecked your page numbering system when you print off the final, final draft.

Ah i haven't numbered anything yet. I have a rough format i.e borders, double spaced, font 12 etc but I am leaving the typesetting and final formatting to after the editor goes through it.

Here is my current process:

Right now I have it in PDF format, reading through, correcting errors as I go in the word doc and marking down on a seperate paper areas that need to either be improved or removed or moved around. ( long old process... urgghhhhhh!! )

Next step will be to do those improvements

Then i will read through again, this time marking the areas where the chapters will be ( right now I just have it in scenes ) I will create the chapter areas.

After that I will go back through again to see if there are any more improvements I can make

Then I will hand it over to 3 people to proofread ( each will take 100 pages ) after they are done

I will then hire an editor to go through it

Once back I will go through it one final time.

Then I will have someone get it ready for amazon and smashwords

[510bhan]

An editor will probably want numbered pages.

Even samples sent have to have numbered pages.

[ed]

An editor will probably want numbered pages.

Even samples sent have to have numbered pages.

Well only takes a few seconds to add that in in word before i send over

[ed]

Finally got through 1 entire reading, fixed a lot of errors in the document as i went. Took me a day and half of reading.

Jotted down other notes and now to make those changes. Long old process.

[Gyppo]

Jotted down other notes and now to make those changes. Long old process.

The pursuit of excellence was always thus  ;-)

The computer may make some things easier, but it doesn't make them any less exacting if you take your work seriously.

Gyppo

[Joe Mynhardt]

I convert my word files to Kindle format and read it from there. So many mistakes. Then I send them to a couple of proofreaders (lots of mistakes again), and then I read the entire thing on the Kindle again. Just one or two mistakes or rewording and then it's ready.