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Grammar Checkers
« on: March 03, 2012, 07:35:49 AM »
I'm currently using the grammar checker from MS Word, but it does not pick up everything. Therefore, can someone suggest a decent grammar checker for me to use while editing my manuscript.

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Re: Grammar Checkers
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2012, 09:00:07 AM »
Yourself?  Learn more about grammar and don't rely on the technology.  Allow your instincts to take over as well.  Often the grammar checkers are just not compatible with what you are attempting to convey.  MS Word is pretty reasonable to a point, but reading up on grammar and punctuation is a better way - learn with time.  There are many many books out there to help you. Try this one from Nick Daws here on MWC - "Essential English for Authors." You can download it.  I'll try and find the link for you.  Okay just looked it up here you are http://www.mywriterscircle.com/index.php/topic,29584.0.html


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Re: Grammar Checkers
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2012, 09:10:35 AM »
I'd agree with Lin. Sometimes MS gives me its wiggly lines and doesn't like a passive sentence I have written . . . but it has been deliberately so. (I sometimes argue with the computer and get quite vocal.)

Once you have read up on the basics you will be in a better position to make any calls regarding sentence structure.

The basics are covered in many online forums with practice exercises so you can see how your understanding is coming along.

This is a handy site, but there are many more out there. http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/commas.htm

Look for information about weaknesses you know you might possess; parts of speech, use of tense, punctuation, verb agreement, clauses etc. and concentrate on them until you gain more confidence. ;) ;) ;)
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2012, 10:39:08 AM »
And just to add to Sio's post I don't rely on the grammar checker any more although I do use it.  The best way to consider this is to think about rhythmn!  Listen to the beat.  My weaknesses are commas!
I have to listen to the pauses and decide in reality if I would place a comma there or not. Would I really need a hyphen in between this word and the next? Do they go together or not? Cowboy boots or cowboy-boots.  Sometimes you might be in a situation where you need to put a hyphen in between cowboy and boots. Everything depends on the meaning and the rythmn.

When you have ten drafts of your novel you get to know it well, sometimes you close your ears to the grammar and punctuation, but when you are on your final draft you can use both your own instincts and your grammar checker as a back up.  

Reading out loud can be a godsend.  Even though you hate doing it, it will show up all the anomalies in your text.  If you have to stop the rhythmn, then perhaps there is something wrong.

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Re: Grammar Checkers
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2012, 10:44:45 AM »
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Reading out loud can be a godsend.
  I haven't tried it for text (have for words), but there are text to voice programs out there?
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2012, 10:49:40 AM »
This is free apparently. You can choose the voice you prefer and the speed you like. Try the sample on the page. ;)

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Re: Grammar Checkers
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2012, 11:04:32 AM »
Not familiar with this program, but it seems like it works great ! I like the features of different voices and speed changes....good find !
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Re: Grammar Checkers
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2012, 05:31:04 AM »
Voice programmes are fine for some, but not for me I found I was listening to my own story and not picking out the errors!LOL
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Re: Grammar Checkers
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2012, 10:25:44 PM »
Hello Ty,

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Learn more about grammar and don't rely on the technology.

I agree with Lin.

Grammar is a basic skill needed by all writers. It must be studied to become proficient. Lazy writers are never good writers.

The reference I have used for the last few decades is "Words Into Type," from Prentice-Hall.

I have several other references, but Words Into Type is the most authoritative and complete.

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Re: Grammar Checkers
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2012, 07:09:50 AM »
Hi all,

What is the best way to master Grammar?
We can read many books and articles on the subject, but one shall never know they are erring unless, they test their writings and teachers/knowledgeable individuals were correcting them.
This would allow one to understand where they go wrong and learn the rules of the grammar.

Some learn by practicing it rather than just reading the rules.

Thank you

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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2012, 08:21:36 AM »
It might be a good idea to take up a basic English course at night school or a local university.  Find out what's in the course first though and having a mentor/tutor is important for someone to guide you through it all.

The OU do courses and if you live in the UK you can enquire through the Open University as to exactly what they offer.  Find out the right course for you - it's important that you don't do an English course and discover they are doing Geography field trips! 

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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2012, 03:29:10 PM »
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