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Grammar Checker?
« on: December 10, 2011, 11:06:35 AM »
Would somebody please check the Grammar on this please?
I am using Grammarly (which I am assuming is US only), and it keeps telling me this is incorrect.




“OK boss," said the builder, “But I'm telling you, something is not right.”


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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 11:17:09 AM »
“OK boss," said the builder, "...but I'm telling you, something is not right.”

Perhaps?  And don't take too much notice of your grammar checker - rules are there to be broken and the grammar checker isn't always right.  My grammar checker doesn't even pick up on this at all!  It can often depend on how you want to express this yourself as the writer of the story. I am sure someone else might express it another way. What exactly does your GC tell you?

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« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 11:19:54 AM by Lin Treadgold »

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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 11:24:34 AM »
Thanks Lin, It wants me to put the comma like this "OK boss", said the builder. So I am presuming this could be down to a difference with UK and US ??? ???
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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 11:25:46 AM »
This is what it states.

Review this sentence for comma use.              Ensure there is a comma between direct quotes and the attributive tag. The attributive tag, (“said”), should be separated from the quote by a comma; consider inserting one. When quoting, it must be made clear to the reader who said (or wrote or thought) whatever is being quoted; this is done by using “attributive tags”.  Look for words like “he said”, “he claimed” and “according to”.  Attributive tags can be at the beginning or end of the quote, or even in the middle (in which case you would use a comma before and after the attributive tag).  American convention generally places commas *outside* opening quotation marks and *inside* closing quotation marks.
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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 11:28:12 AM »
Oh no the way I understand it is that the comma always goes inside the inverted commas. Being British I always use single quotes.  I think UK publishers prefer it these days.  I do it anyway.

‘Bye, and thanks,’ said the woman. 'I hope to see you next time.'

The US might put the comma outside the quotes.  I think if Wolfe comes in here he might comment on this for you.

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« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 11:32:56 AM by Lin Treadgold »

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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 11:31:29 AM »
Thanks Lin, that's what I usually do, but you start questioning yourself sometimes. It's so confusing having different styles for UK and US.
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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 11:33:23 AM »
I didn't know about the single quotes. I hope Wolfe will drop by ;). I know you are experienced anyway so I will change my speech marks.
I have so much to learn ::)
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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2011, 11:34:58 AM »
If I were you I would not look at US grammar checkers if you are doing the British thing.   Stick with your Windows Grammar checker and think outside the box.  There are lots of good books around for English Grammar, they are probably the best ones to use for checking.  PS Nick Daws has the 'Essential English' you can download.  Do a search for it here. 

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« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 11:37:00 AM by Lin Treadgold »

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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2011, 11:39:46 AM »
I use two grammar checkers, just to be on the safe side. However, also use my judgement. Unfortunately, I don't use Word. We use Open Office.
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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2011, 11:53:11 AM »
Ooh Lin, I changed the speech marks and now it likes the UK commas ;D ;D Very strange.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2011, 05:04:27 PM »
Ah ha!  Interesting eh?

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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2011, 10:32:04 PM »
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“OK boss," said the builder, “But I'm telling you, something is not right.”

“OK boss," said the builder, “but I'm telling you, something is not right.”

The only modification your example needed is a lower case b in the word but because it is the continuation of a sentence, not a new sentence. Grammar checkers are notoriously inept. Even though mine is set to US standards, it keeps defaulting back to UK. Perhaps because I visit so many UK sites.

Also, if you are writing for the US market, double quotation marks are the norm and punctuation goes inside the quotes.

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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2011, 06:44:33 AM »
Thanks Don, Which Grammar checker do you use? As I need one, which is more UK based.
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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2011, 07:02:26 AM »
“OK boss," said the builder, “But I'm telling you, something is not right.”

"Okay, boss," said the builder. "But, I'm telling you, something is not right."

That's as purist as it gets for grammarians.

1. OK is actually an abbreviation. Purists want the written form.

2. When you reference a name or title, a comma is needed. "Okay, John" is different from "Okay John".

3. When you open with a conjunction, it follows with a comma if a phrase divides the subject. If you can remove the phrase, commas are placed between. In other words, you can write: "But, something is not right" and the sentence stays intact. Therefore, commas will be used to separate the phrase and independent clause "I'm telling you".

Sorry, no programs used . . . just editing experience. Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 07:10:51 AM by Wolfe »

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Re: Grammar Checker?
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2011, 08:42:12 AM »
I believe the commas can be removed, Wolfe. I know they are fine as is, in both examples but we rely on commas too much when many times that pause is not necessarily there.

"Okay, boss," said the builder. "But I'm telling you something's not right."

That they are saying 'they are telling him' is connected enough to 'something's not right'

Writers use commas to build tension, separated objects/names etc, but I think commas often get carried away, and the sentence should be looked at as a whole.

My opinion, not the only one, just wanted to mention another

Sam