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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2010, 05:28:01 PM »
Just wondering..what percentage of editors do you reckon are also publshed authors?  Is it a bit like - those who can ..do it and those who can't ..teach /preach it?

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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2010, 05:35:11 PM »
Excellent question. I would imagine all of them are published. If not, they
have certainly studied the art and know what sells.
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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2010, 05:43:19 PM »
You'd like to think so, wouldn't you. Handing over your precious baby to a stranger who may not have children but runs a damned good nursery!

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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2010, 06:19:23 PM »
Rules - I cringe whenever I see them bind creativity because of one or a group of people's preferences.

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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2010, 07:30:33 PM »
Rules - I cringe whenever I see them bind creativity because of one or a group of people's preferences.

I used to despise writing rules with a passion, until I learned they made me a better writer.
There's a price to pay for everything worth having.  :)
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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2010, 09:26:57 PM »
I think there's a mixture of things in these so-called rules. (1) There are rules/guidelines on how to write better, to produce something that reads well and tells a great story. (2) These rules/guidelines are the opinions of a bunch of editors/publishers on what style of writing they think people will want to read this month/year/etc, which will influence the sorts of stories/books they will pay writers for.

Re (1), as writers, we seriously need to listen to these rules/guidelines, because they will help us to produce better (and hopefully more publishable) work.

Re (2), I think we need to acknowledge that these are only opinions, albeit the opinions of very influential people - those who may or may not publish our work. However, opinions change over time, so if one is at the early stages of writing now, and might not finish for another year or two, I fail to see the value in tailoring one's writing style to the current whims. If editing now, however, it may be an advantage to do so.

The problem, then, is separating out these two sets of rules - or "guidelines", as they might more properly be called.

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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2010, 10:02:51 PM »
The idea is to master the craft asap because when you've done all you
know to do, it will be easy to adapt to new practices. I feel like I'm
hammering my head against a rock, so I have to share something with
you, comrades.

For ten years I refused to write by anyone else's standards. Period.
The things I produced within those 10 years still sit in my files, gathering
dust, reminding me of my own foolishness. They're unsellable for two or
three reasons. (1) I refused to conform to those who knew what they
wanted to buy. (2) I thought I could change the market. (3) I didn't
select my outlets BEFORE I wrote the document. (Huge secret to success.)

I'm here to tell ya... I learned the hard way, and I wouldn't wish it onto
any of you. And the kicker was this - when I finally "got it", I couldn't
believe how much faster my writing grew.

Ten years of my life down the toilet. Sweat and tears. Discouragement.
A bitter well to drink from, my friends.
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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2010, 07:15:27 AM »
As a tutor myself, now retired, I always went with the philosophy that you never stop learning.

You can never say you have learned it all now.  Personally I'm enjoying myself and if I get published then that's great.  I suspect one day I might, yet on the other hand I may end up self publishing so I have the book in my library in the house for my future grandchildren.

I am enjoying myself and that's important.  I will certainly try to go down the publishing route and have found an agent who wants me to get back in touch, but it doesn't mean a thing until the book is finished. So in the meantime I will continue to keep the learning process open.

Do we ever 'get it'? I know that some published authors confess they didn't know how on earth their book got published.  

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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2010, 05:58:23 PM »
No, we never "get it" in the sense of learning it all. That's what I love about writing.
It's the same as music. No one can plummet the depths. I just meant that I understood
(at last) what I had been taught. Good point.  :)
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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2010, 06:41:07 AM »
Sorry I can't continue this debate I have to go to England today on an urgent mission - see the Coffee Shop.

Back soon

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Re: How should I punctuate this?
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2010, 12:53:25 PM »
Have a great trip, Lin. Be safe.
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