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Offline eric

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rain grunion
« on: August 25, 2009, 07:27:53 PM »
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Re: hows it feels to have out-of-place english-style weather in the rain.
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 09:02:34 AM »
so get some socks, tiddley-poom,
and fluffy slippers, tiddley-barn

and then your toes, tiddley-pong
will soon be warm.
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Re: hows it feels to have out-of-place english-style weather in the rain.
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 02:25:42 PM »
yeah, i could get bear-fur slippers
and bear-skin gloves
and bear-tooth clothes
for my bearmooth nose

piddley porn, piddley poorn

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Re: hows it feels to have out-of-place english-style weather in the rain.
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2009, 07:53:52 PM »
I like this, but I love wackiness and experiment and I know I can be too kind to anything that's weird (although I've given up goths).
Can I just check that you intend the last three lines to have three meanings:
The bear (Winnie), ejecting excrement (aka poo), and old English gents poo-pooing (Poo-pooing at Amazon
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Re: hows it feels to have out-of-place english-style weather in the rain.
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2009, 08:41:40 PM »
gib:

1.  too kind?  to one of my pieces?  how is that possible?

2.  weird?  you say what? 

I do not write weird poetry, my dear fellow.  I sometimes have weird readers, I think ... one wrote me just the other day to ask if I had a wire crossed.  I wrote back in high dudgeon to say, "I do not have a wire crossed, madam.  A screw loose, well, that is possible."  She took that as confirmation.  See what I mean?  Readers.

3.  regarding the last three lines, in which you suggest there are three possible meanings, you mention two, so far as I can tell:

a.  Winnie spouting excrement on the lawn

b.  Old English gents being dismissive to Amazon.com, uk version

Neither of these seems to be among the two meanings I contemplated when writing the thing, though anything's possible.  I was thinking more or less along the lines of:

a.   Reader enunciates words meaning "oh, hell" in my grandmother's dialect, she long since having gone to her reward, these words meant to inspire an inferiority complex in the weather, while spitting at it

        .......... so that it will get discouraged and go away

b.   Reader does far-fetched, sometimes unspeakable sex acts on the stuffed bear in order to disturb the prevailing energy fields and cause either El Nino or the local variation of the Japanese Current to swing southward

Note -- not at all sure that Winnie appears in the last three lines or elsewhere, although he could be the narrator for the first five strophes.  He is not the stuffed brown bear, because Winnie is a figment of the imagination, not a toy.  Granted, he was based on one.


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Re: hows it feels to have out-of-place english-style weather in the rain.
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2009, 10:23:11 PM »
I expect you are right and the poem is not weird and my impression that it is weird is wrong.

I was asking if I was right in seeing three meanings and since you say there are two, none like what I saw, my question is almost answered.

The verb to poopoo is 'To mildly deprecate or dismiss something as unimportant' according to Wiktionary. Is the association with 'poopoo' intended? I confused the issue by mentioning English gents. I associate the verb with Members of Parliament saying things like 'The Honourable Member may poopoo the Southend Waterworks Bill...', but I didn't really think there were English gents or MPs in your poem.

I googled 'poo-pooing', went a bit weird and pasted-in the Amazon ad for poo-pooing which came up.

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Re: hows it feels to have out-of-place english-style weather in the rain.
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2009, 11:21:52 AM »
Well, I think there were four.  Your two and my two.  It's starting to give me a headache, though.

You recall Shakespeare's weird sisters?  Witches, weren't they?  Could a witch have written this  nice, fluffy poem about a spectral illusion concocted from a brown stuffed animal?  Well, you know, now that I think of it,  maybe it is weird.

Loved your google advertisement, by the way.

Now, where were we?

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Re: hows it feels to have out-of-place english-style weather in the rain.
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2009, 11:23:51 AM »
Yes, that's the kind of pooh pooh I was thinking about.  So you Brits have turned it into one word and made it a political term, eh?  Hm.