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Offline CarrieSheppard

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Expat writers wanted
« on: February 29, 2008, 09:14:07 AM »
I received this from Jo Parfitt:

"Yet again I have been asked to source potential authors for Culture Smart!  http://www.kuperard.co.uk/culturesmart/

Do you think you can write about 30,000 words in an upbeat style about what it is like to live in one of the following countries as an expatriate? If so,  get in touch with me (Jo, not Carrie) and I will connect you with the series editor.

The countries are:

Jordan   
Syria   
Tunisia   
Mongolia   
Bosnia Herzogovena   
Slovakia   
Nigeria   
Tanzania   
Venezuela   
Columbia   
Ecuador


This is a great opportunity to gain a reputation as a country expert or an author. It will earn you GBP1000, which is a one-off fee.

If you want to explore this just get in touch with me.

Thanks

Jo"

You can reach her via her website:  www.expatrollercoaster.com

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Re: Expat writers wanted
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 01:22:13 PM »
Pity the list doesn't include Greece. Oh well.... :'(
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 08:56:47 PM »
That's interesting ... I spent 5 years in Nigeria and wrote quite a bit about the place ... biggest problem ... there is so little to be 'upbeat' about!

Thanks for the info Carrie.
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 09:00:28 PM »
I've never been to any of those places, but I could make something up.
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 09:43:41 PM »
I've never been to any of those places, but I could make something up.
Whatever your wildest imagination is ... it's probably been achieved in Nigeria!
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Re: Expat writers wanted
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2008, 05:33:16 AM »
Darn...Germany isn't on the list either.
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Re: Expat writers wanted
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2008, 06:01:02 AM »
1,000 for 30,000 words? Is that a mis-print? I'm sorry I don't mean to sound disrespectful but that is one of the lowest fees for a book I have seen. What are other people's views on this?
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2008, 06:09:36 AM »
Linda - It depends on the pound exchange!  :) It is low and I wouldn't take it either. But for someone just getting started, it's better than nothing. Plus I don't consider 30,000 words to be a book. That's more of an extended pamphlet! And of course word length isn't the be all, end all of a piece of work. If there's little research and I can write the thing off the top of my head, maybe I'll take less than my favorite fee of 90 cents- 1 dollar a word. Few will pay $30,000 for 30,000 words on living in another country. If you know of someone who will pay that, tell me! I'd be glad to work for them...

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2008, 11:12:35 AM »
I agree with every word Annmarie. I think it's an important discussion.

I just wanted to ask the question in general, I have worked for low rates, as many of us have and I have worked for free.

I just suppose that possibly any writer, at whatever "stage" of their career, could be more encouraged by payment linked to sales, as it may seem fairer. And from the publisher's point of view, where's the incentive for an author to help market the book if they get 1,000 regardless of whether it sells 200 copies or 20,000? 

Yeah, I'm just asking really. Journalists who are also the authors of low-key non-fiction books need to think again if they go into it thinking they could make the same rates as for magazine or newspaper articles - which can pay the same fee as quoted above for one single piece.

I just think it can be a shame if someone starting out devotes too much time to projects that pay very poorly because they perceive them to be prestigious rather than finding work that can reward them more handsomely. Devil's advocate says that if you can't get paid so well for writing about that topic then find something to write about that you can get paid a lot more for.

But of course life isn't always like that. I have taken low paid jobs where I have had a passion for the subject or have wanted to help out or advance a specialism.

None of them pay the bills though. I really don't want to put a dampner on this specific opportunity and I apologise to anyone who gets that impression. But as writers, surely it's important to push for better pay and better valuing of the skills involved.
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Re: Expat writers wanted
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2008, 11:22:44 AM »
I have no opinions on the pay or the job - I just passed on the message folks.

No Germany, no Greece...  do you think they are avoiding countries that begin with G?  ;D

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Re: Expat writers wanted
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2008, 11:24:31 AM »
Shame, I know a lot about Gengland.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2008, 11:40:25 AM »
Yes, Linda, the individual writer has to see what he or she gets out of  the job. I've done a couple of cheap jobs because I thought they sounded very fun. I wrote one article for free for a site that has a huge following, and I got extremely well paying jobs as a result of that article.

I find writing for corporations gets you more money than any publication anyway. My last travel article assignment was like a blank check to travel, all expenses paid, and I got to name my fee (it was huge because I knew they had the money!)  ;D

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2008, 11:51:55 AM »
I'm sorry to have hijacked the thread - thanks Carrie for taking the time to pass on the information. I can do a good impression of a bull in a china shop sometimes.  :o
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Re: Expat writers wanted
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2008, 06:58:27 AM »
Hi Linda,

I think I can do Nigeria quite well; I've spent most of my days there as a citizen.  It is a country with diverse culture because of the make up of the citizenry.  However, is the 1000GBP for all of 30k words?  I wouldn't mind doing Nigeria and it could be quite easy for me to do but the money is a bit on the low side!

Thanks for the info and well done!

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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2008, 06:08:17 PM »
Well, some debut American novelists (currently) would be delighted to get that with the exchange rate as it is = $2,000. For some genre that is a fair first fee. Plus, 30k words is not a novel. So, if the word count was 75k, in this math problem, the fee would then be $5,000 USD.

I'm not saying to do it or not, but that's the math (or the UK version is maths).

(just did the conversion online it is $2,017.15 at the moment)

BTW, I updated Carrie's original post. People were missing it was a quote and contacting her. Contact Jo at the website listed.

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