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Sticky: General posting guidelines
« on: September 03, 2007, 05:27:31 PM »
Poetry:  Review my work

This is a general board for posters who would like more general feedback, from overall impressions on inital drafts. This board can also be used to discuss poetry technique, forms, or to discuss the work of particular poets. If you would like to post a game or poetry challenge, please use the Writing Games and Challenges board:

If you are a particularly prolific writer and write more than one poem per week, you may wish to post any overflow from the "Poetry Workshop" (maximum posts one per week) here. If you do not want critique and just wish to share, please post in the Gallery:

General posting guidelines

1.  Maximum Daily (24 hour period) Posts: One poem and one poetry discussion topic. This is to ensure poems remain on the front page long enough to receive feedback.

1a. In the spirit of the above, and to preserve the balance of the board, posters are requested to review the front page to try to ensure that no more than three of their own poems are on the front page at any one time. Posts may be moved or deleted if this limit is exceeded. You can control the number of posts on the front page by a number of means: a) commenting on other people's poems to bring them back up to the front; b) keeping revisions in with the original thread rather than creating a new one; c) consolidating two or more poems within a single thread; d) asking a moderator to delete a thread, if no comment has been received. If in doubt, contact a moderator.

1b. Not directly related to the above, but in the spirit of maintaining the goodwill of your potential critters: please do not post poems longer than 100 lines (and no more than 2000 words total). If you have an epic poem that needs feedback, limit the post to the first 100 lines: this should be sufficient for the critter to give general feedback and for you to gauge the level of enthusiasm.

2.  Please post at least three critiques/comments for every poem or other topic you post.  Posters new to critiquing can find some general suggestions and guidelines here.  

3.  It's helpful if you indicate the level of critique you would like (ie from "let rip!" to "please only say nice things").  If you don't indicate that you don't want negative critique, please don't complain if you receive such critique (I know most of you wouldn't, but we get the odd stroppy person!)

4.  Critters:  Try to keep your comments focused on the poem and its strengths and weaknesses, rather than other poster's comments.  If you genuinely think that following a particular critter's advice will make a poem worse rather than better, it may be worth saying something, but in general "defending" poems is unnecessary and contributes to the misperception that critique is unwelcome on this board.

4a. As an extension of the above ("try to keep your comments focussed on the poem") please critique the poem rather than its writer. ie "I don't like this poem" is fine, but, "you obviously know nothing about poetry" is not. Or "the poem sounds angst-ridden and narcissistic to me" even (though some might consider that crossing the line, so think twice about these kind of comments) but not "you sound like an angst-ridden narcissist". If in doubt, err on the side of diplomacy - particularly with new posters, who may just be settling in and trying to find their poetry-feet.

5.  Back to posters:  Unless a change feels really right to you, try to avoid the temptation to make instantaneous revisions.  Not every comment you receive will help you improve your poem - take some time to let comments and suggestions sink it, so that you can work out how you want to implement (or not, as the case may be) the advice you've received.

6.  If you'd like to include a reading of your poem, German Voodoo has kindly written some instructions for downloading the relevant software, and a link to a site that will host audio files for free (see next post in this thread)

7. Please don't post titles all in capitals.


If you'd like to post a revision in a column next to the original version (makes it a bit easier to see what you've changed), here's how:

1.  Place both versions in a post.  Whichever poem in on top will appear on the left.  

2.  Highlight the text of the first poem and then click on the "Insert Table column" button (that's the one that looks like a 3x3 table with the top left box highlighted in blue).  Alternatively, place [ td ] and [ /td ]  (without the spaces) at the beginning and end of the poem.

3.  Repeat step two for the second poem.

4.  Highlight both poems and all the column markers, and click "Insert Table Row" (the button that looks like a 3x3 table with the top row highlighted in blue).  Alternatively, place [ tr ] and [ /tr ] (without the spaces) at the beginning and end respectively.

5.  Highlight both poems, all the column markers and the row markers, and click "Insert Table" (the button that looks like a 3x3 table but has no blue boxes at all).  Alternatively, place [ table ] and [ /table ] (without the spaces) at the beginning and end.

When you are done, your un-previewed post should look like this (without the spaces in the table markers):

[ table][ tr][ td]first poem
line 1
line 2
last line[ /td]

[ td]second poem
line 1
line 2
last line[ /td][ /tr][ /table]

which should come out like this when you post it:

first poem
line 1
line 2
last line
second poem
line 1
line 2
last line

6.  If you want some space between the first and second poem, put additional spaces after the longest line in the first poem, and it should end up looking like this:

first poem                  
line 1
line 2
last line
second poem
line 1
line 2
last line
« Last Edit: May 13, 2016, 06:45:10 PM by Amie »
"You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet." - Kafka

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Re: General posting guidelines
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2007, 06:04:19 PM »
Spoken Verse -

Poetry has its roots in sonic measure - passed, unwritten, from generations by spoken word. It has grown since then - naturally - but its roots remain. You may see the ugliest formatting, with the most well connected words. In such a case, it's best to have a reading, in which you may gather the poet's mood, intention, and pattern.

MWC encourages such Spoken Verse for these reasons - and the instructions are simple.

This site has the program Audacity, which records and exports your voice into mp3, wav, or Ogg. For this purpose, it's best to export as .mp3.

The program.
This is for windows only. For mac, visit the homepage.

You will need a plugin for the program, as copyright prohibits it from being built into it- so you'll have to add to the shell. It's in .zip format, so either Windows will unzip it or you'll use a program like Winrar to do it. Winrar is free for 40 days. The first time you export as .mp3, it'll ask you where the plugin is. Just direct it and you're done.

This plugin -

The plugin.

Exports the file as .mp3 and saves it to anywhere on your computer.

Go to a file hosting site and upload. This site has no disk limits - meaning unlimited uploads - and a maximum file size of 100MB apiece. Most spoken pieces may average around 2 or 3 MB.

No registration is required, though it is free. The site doesn't allow you to play it online - only to download.

So, the steps should be simple -

Make the poem
Record the poem
Export as .mp3
Upload it to mediafire
Post the poem and the link to mediafire.

For example-

The orbit rang true
and the man drank his stew
while the alcoholic minstrels
turned ogres into you.


If you have either fear of the program or a slow internet connection, you can request another member read it aloud.

« Last Edit: September 03, 2007, 06:07:41 PM by German Voodoo »