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Title: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: CarrieSheppard on March 20, 2007, 10:23:15 AM
I got this from bnet.online.com

1.  Loose for lose
No: I always loose the product key.
Yes: I always lose the product key.

2. It's for its (or god forbid, its')
No: Download the HTA, along with it's readme file.
Yes: Download the HTA, along with its readme file.
No: The laptop is overheating and its making that funny noise again.
Yes: The laptop is overheating and it's making that funny noise again.

3. They're for their for there
No: The managers are in they're weekly planning meeting.
Yes: The managers are in their weekly planning meeting.
No: The techs have to check there cell phones at the door, and their not happy about it.
Yes: The techs have to check their cell phones at the door, and they're not happy about it.

4. i.e. for e.g.
No: Use an anti-spyware program (i.e., AdAware).
Yes: Use an anti-spyware program (e.g., AdAware).
Note: The term i.e. means "that is"; e.g. means "for example." And a comma follows both of them.

5.  Effect for affect
No: The outage shouldn't effect any users during work hours.
Yes: The outage shouldn't affect any users during work hours.
Yes: The outage shouldn't have any effect on users.
Yes: We will effect several changes during the downtime.
Note: Impact is not a verb. Purists, at least, beg you to use affect instead:
No: The outage shouldn't impact any users during work hours.
Yes: The outage shouldn't affect any users during work hours.
Yes: The outage should have no impact on users during work hours.

6. You're for your
No: Remember to defrag you're machine on a regular basis.
Yes: Remember to defrag your machine on a regular basis.
No: Your right about the changes.
Yes: You're right about the changes.

7. Different than for different from
No: This setup is different than the one at the main office.
Yes: This setup is different from the one at the main office.
Yes: This setup is better than the one at the main office.

8. Lay for lie
No: I got dizzy and had to lay down.
Yes: I got dizzy and had to lie down.
Yes: Just lay those books over there.

9. Then for than
No: The accounting department had more problems then we did.
Yes: The accounting department had more problems than we did.
Note: Here's a sub-peeve. When a sentence construction begins with If, you don't need a then. Then is implicit, so it's superfluous and wordy:
No: If you can't get Windows to boot, then you'll need to call Ted.
Yes: If you can't get Windows to boot, you'll need to call Ted.

10. Could of, would of for could have, would have
No: I could of installed that app by mistake.
Yes: I could have installed that app by mistake.
No: I would of sent you a meeting notice, but you were out of town.
Yes: I would have sent you a meeting notice, but you were out of town.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: jeff on March 22, 2007, 04:10:51 AM
Thanks Carrie.

To expand on point 7: Different FROM, Similar TO. I've never said different than, but I have been guilty of saying different to.


Also, 'Impact is not a verb. Purists, at least, beg you to use affect instead.' This is one of my personal hates. It brings back bad memories of 1980's managementspeak and people in red braces getting lots of money for talking bollocks.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: urban scribe on March 22, 2007, 08:41:36 AM
Carrie, this is wonderful! I've printed a copy to keep on hand. Like Leigh, I, too, am guilty of the i.e. e.g. confusion. Not no more (LOL). Thanks again for this.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: crystalwizard on March 24, 2007, 03:58:01 AM

2. It's for its (or god forbid, its')


This one is a pet peeve. I hate the fact that everyone has been forced to use this typesetter's mark in this way. It makes no sense, doesn't match with any thing else and is a pain in the rear.

If you might be interested in seeing exactly why that ' is used at all and why it's and its and its' are really interchangeable, here's a page full of interesting information:

http://tinyurl.com/y4dqss How the past affects the future: The story of the APOSTROPHE

Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Lynn10240 on March 24, 2007, 04:22:23 AM
This was worth the copy and paste. I wondered a time or two about the difference between e.g., and e.i., but never bothered to find out. And impact ... well, maybe I should avoid that word since often, without realizing, I turn nouns into verbs. Impact is one of my weaknesses.

Thank you, Carrie.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Whale on March 24, 2007, 04:48:40 AM
Very important message.  Well done!

It's is used ONLY for 'It is.'  Otherwise (when it's used for belonging to, like his or her) then it's without the apostrophe.

Words used wrongly.

Phenomena for phenomenon - the first is plural, the second singular.

Only:

NO: He only said he wanted to go out. (No one else said it?)
YES: He said he wanted only to go out.

NO: I only want your love (insult - what? no one else does?)
YES: I want only your love.

Don't split infinitives.  This is an epidemic now and even the best newspapers do it.  But don't you!  It is a flow stopper and you don't want it in your writing.

NO: I want to simply warn you not to go.
YES: I want simply to warn you not to go. or I simply want to warn you not to go.

No: Do you think it's too difficult to hopeless and utterly, with no reservations, fall in love with you?
YES:  Do you think it's too difficult to fall hopelessly and utterly in love with you, with no reservations?

Hope this is helpful too.

 
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Linda Aitchison on March 28, 2007, 09:05:43 AM
Here are some that used to crop up in my days on an evening newspaper:

Underway should be under way
Refute shouldn't be used to mean 'proved wrong'
Bare in mind for bear in mind
Electrocuted meaning anything but getting a shock so severe it killed them.

Also - apostrophes in decades - there aren't any and I wish someone would tell those nice people who advertise compilation albums - 1970's 1980's etc. ARRRRRGGGGHHH!

Today I have seen 'neigh' when the writer meant 'nay' - well it made me laugh!

All best

Linda
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: thatollie on March 28, 2007, 12:35:39 PM
Accept that English is a complicated langauge that people will get wrong.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Linda Aitchison on March 28, 2007, 12:39:43 PM
Absolutely, but if they expect to be paid to be published then they need to get it right, at least when they submit their copy.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: thatollie on March 28, 2007, 12:46:33 PM
You've got that right. It's a shame when people don't learn the basic rules of their profession.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: sassymickey05 on March 28, 2007, 01:52:15 PM
I am guilty of using lay instead of lie. And I still get it wrong. My story needs some repairs to it, drastically. Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Cathy C on March 31, 2007, 05:43:36 PM
My biggest mistake (and worry) is: in to and into ???

Never could figure out where and when to use them. :-[

Anyone got any tips?

Pretty please. :-*
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Lina on March 31, 2007, 08:30:38 PM
That's one I don't understand either. You're not alone.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Cathy C on March 31, 2007, 10:07:50 PM
Thank God for that, Lina (I do hate to suffer alone. ;D)
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Simon on October 22, 2007, 04:30:09 PM
I knew you were being facetious, but continued as if you weren't.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: wannabewriter on November 10, 2007, 07:00:14 PM
Wow I never thought about in to or into. That is interesting. Hopefully we can find the answer.

As for the 10 Grammer mistakes. I love it. Copy and pasted that baby for future reference.



Thanks,

Paula
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Gyppo on November 10, 2007, 07:49:34 PM

 Copy and pasted that baby for future reference.


Damn me...  All these years I've thought babies were found under a Gooseberry bush, or arrived in the Doctor's black bag.  Now I find they can be copied and pasted from another source.  All these years I've been doing it wrong.

Just having a 'funny five', Paula.  It's time I was asleep ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Cathy C on November 10, 2007, 07:55:38 PM
Quote
All these years I've thought babies were found under a Gooseberry bush, or arrived in the Doctor's black bag.  Now I find they can be copied and pasted from another source.  All these years I've been doing it wrong.

Hey, I sweated buckets for my babies (tears and blood) if you're annoyed, just think how I feel. ;)




Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: wannabewriter on November 10, 2007, 08:42:20 PM
Gyppo,

I like that a since of humor. That is always refreshing.

Thanks for the laugh.

Paula
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Stupot on November 15, 2007, 08:10:47 PM
Those ones are pretty elementary (even though I do break one or two of them occasionally).
I was caught out the other day and learned something new in the process.

Apparently it's wrong to say "Less than 500 people came to the gig"
The correct way of saying it is "Fewer than 500 people came to the gig".

You are only supposed to say 'Less than' if you are talking about a quantity, such as "I used less than an ounce of flour"

So it's Less than for a quantity and fewer than for a number.

Did everyone else know this, or have I enlightened anyone?
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Christopher Silva on November 16, 2007, 10:41:50 AM
Damn! ie., e.g, Nooooo!

Good one, thanks.



chris
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: terry on November 30, 2007, 05:43:13 PM
Hi,

I'm the co-creator of a free online grammar checker that will catch all of these errors and many more (in most contexts). The checker can be found here: www.SpellCheckPlus.com. If there are errors you'd like to see addressed for all to enjoy (or rather avoid!), please let me know and we'll do our best to take care of it. There is no cost to use the site, we only ask that you share your comments so we can continue to make improvements.

best,

terry
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: kalikan on December 11, 2007, 01:57:50 AM
Into and in to. Hmmm, lemme see if I can explain it...

Into is used when referring to something--"looked into the car" or "walked into the room". One thing is verbing INTO x.
In to is used when the thoughts are separated. "I looked in to see what was going on." I" looked in" is a separate from "to see what was going on." The "to" in "in to" is like an abbreviation for "In order to."

Eye have know idea if any of that makes since butt eye tried.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Nick.P on December 11, 2007, 04:36:39 PM
I found a site that has some:  htt://lbaker.orcon.net.nz/words.html        "Words that are often confused."
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: dynodreamer on December 14, 2007, 05:03:39 PM
Kathy and Lina-

IN & INTO = These two are quite straight forward actually. They define different states of being.

To go INTO, you simply GO IN ... and then you're TO your destination.
To be IN on the other hand requires nothing from you other than to BE.

One state requires that you journey.
The other one describes where you are at present and asks only that you BE.
Newfoundlanders have a funny saying which gives a strange use of this verbiage...

"You stay where you're at and I'll come where you're to." 'Don't know if we need to get INTO that however.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: stargenesis on January 31, 2008, 09:33:49 AM
Carrie started it all about this 10 grammar mistake matter.  It's great. Well done!  And to the other contributors, I say, you've made my day.  Thanks.

Stargenesis/Nigeria
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: ladylaughalot on February 07, 2008, 04:36:20 AM
What's the difference between wearing clothes and bearing clothes then?
I remember reading the latter once and thought it a strange expression.

Never heard the phrase "We come bearing gifts" then?
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: thatollie on February 07, 2008, 06:51:13 AM
Quote
Never heard the phrase "We come bearing gifts" then?
I thought it was, "we come baring all."
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Wurdsmyth on February 07, 2008, 07:58:22 AM
Now that would make grammar interesting!  ;)
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: thatollie on February 07, 2008, 08:01:47 AM
The reinterestation of grammar is my new crusade.
Title: Re: 10 Grammar mistakes that make you look stupid
Post by: Wurdsmyth on February 07, 2008, 09:22:48 AM
Brilliant, Sir Ollie - and not before time! ;D The possibilities are endless...