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Title: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 03, 2021, 06:54:27 PM
Welcome to jt's Roundtable. 

Do you believe everything  reported by those in the media business
or do you check to insure it's not fake news?

Because we live in different parts of the world,from the events unfolding,
and have no 100% way of knowing what is happening, I research
and double check to find provable facts. 
Though there are a few great reporters who devote their lives to getting the 'facts' out-
I believe many are in the business to  sale stories  at the expense  of truth and facts.

What do you think? I ask...not expecting to get any answers. But sometimes, there's
just things that need to be said.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 04, 2021, 09:40:06 PM
After over 200  years of US non-profit organizations,formed to help people in Africa and other foreign countries feed the hungry,etc. How is it the people who founded the organizations ended up rich,  and they   still claim to need money to help starving children worldwide  ???      Greed exists in every non-profit org. If you're rich and want to help make the world a better place for 'everyone'    don't let other people decide who to give your money to.....of course, they will take their expenses off the top-with a little extra. Use your fortune to make the world a better can't take it with you...
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 05, 2021, 12:26:06 PM
Did Abraham Lincoln's son, Robert Todd Lincoln, sell out the American people in 1905 ??? By making one of our most loved US Presidents the poster-boy  for an insurance company ??? Or. Is this 'fake news'?

1905-The Lincoln National Life Insurance Company is established. Abraham Lincoln's son, Robert Todd Lincoln, grants permission to use his father's name and likeness.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 05, 2021, 08:30:45 PM
Is our,the internet users,  personal information safe on the internet ???
In my opinion the internet owners are all nothing more than collect information ,to sell to big businesses. Even Facebook has been charged with not telling people they  don't protect its member's personal information.....

Apparently, if private peoples' information is not safe-neither would the present day security protect the secrets of bankers and to big to fail businesses.... Think about that ;)
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 06, 2021, 08:11:47 PM
Do you believe that all who are/and were ever born make/made a purposeful journey? That even the worst in man is there for reasons beyond our comprehension....Every thing in life is a stepping stone to the end of our life's journey. I believe that the life we live here on earth/ and the experiences we go through determine our fate/destiny.  Has your faith ever been tested to the limits? Mine has many times.
WARRIOR'S CREED by Jan Tetstone
Aug 4, 2018
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 07, 2021, 06:38:43 PM
Are "experts" in any field super humans?   Can one be trained to understand another's mindset from books  ???

People should stop trying to influence other peoples' way of thinking/behaving, and work on their own flaws.

To think that one can take a psychology class and become an authority on humans, and what makes a person act,in certain situations, the way they do... is laughable.

Only by experiencing/living another's life can one understand what makes another 'tick.'

I dare say, what I have witnessed  in my life time- leaves little doubt, in my mind, at least,that most in the profession(today) are content judging others mental states, by what another "wrote" in a book.

Which is really a shame, because time has away of bring us, as human beings, face to face with our own "true" self.

Life should be lived and not put under a microscope.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 08, 2021, 02:03:11 PM
Is the climate changing or are earth scientist [geoengineering] deliberately manipulating the weather for profit, or to hide what lay behind the man-made sky covers?

As a 'sky-watcher' I have documented the sky changes, taking place above my head, for many years. I documented what I saw. I made videos and took[still have 100s]of pictures. I posted many videos of what I captured on tape.....on Youtube. It's not surprising to me that all of the 100's of videos,except two,which have been screwed with,have been removed.

I would suggest, instead of always looking down or around when out doors that you look upward. What you see might surprise you.

Note: Banks backing geoengineering, when they own stocks in the companies involved in weather modification, has become the norm:

We endeavor to promote inclusive economic growth and opportunity in communities where we operate. We also work to advance environmental sustainability within our business activities and facilities. Highlights of our recent progress include:

◾Advancing clean finance — Since 2003, JPMorgan Chase committed or arranged over $21 billion in tax equity financing for wind, solar and geothermal energy projects in the United States, including $3.2 billion in JPMorgan Chase investments in 2018.
◾Purchasing renewable energy — Advancing sustainability within our physical operations is an important part of our global sustainability strategy. We have made progress towards our commitment, established in 2017, to source renewable energy for 100% of our global power needs by 2020. This commitment builds on our long-standing efforts to reduce our carbon footprint.
◾Supporting climate disclosure — We participated in the Task Force for Climate-related Financial Disclosures, and in 2019, we plan to publish a voluntary report about how we are addressing climate-related risks and opportunities.

Man has already over-stepped the boundary of safety set by nature's god.
Those listening to people like David Keith- should keep in mind- he has much ,money wise, to gain from playing god with the sky.

Carbon dioxide capture  Inventor David Keith Maryam Mahmoudkhani
Current Assignee Carbon Engineering Ltd
A method of carbon dioxide capture is disclosed. In a step (a) anhydrous sodium carbonate is separated from a first aqueous solution formed by reacting carbon dioxide and an aqueous solution of sodium hydroxide. In step (b) the anhydrous sodium carbonate is treated by causticization to generate carbon dioxide and sodium hydroxide. The first aqueous solution of step (a) is formed by scrubbing a gas containing carbon dioxide with an aqueous solution of sodium hydroxide.

Note:Mr. Keith Filed for patent in 2008.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 09, 2021, 02:36:39 PM
Question of the day. Would the 'lower class' person in any country, knowingly sacrifice their heritage, their culture, their very blood,and their country,for 'Capitalism?

As an American who did not go to Harvard or any college or university.Which,I believe, were founded to'brain wash' or introduce new blood into the 'old' corporate system. After researching, companies many call to big to fail, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that anyone from the  American families, who own these companies/business, either died unexpectedly or had went bankrupted.

Private banks, were founded by smart men and women who may/or may not have known the potential threats to mankind and the planet  their separate business endeavor  would create.

In my opinion, Mr. James Dimon is a good example of the mindset of those controlling the money-flow. "anything it takes to win" But, in this writers opinion, Mr. Dimon, is still in the dark,on who has the power to 'pull his strings.'

I live by the  philosophy that in this world, there will always be someone bigger, badder,and smarter. We have just not come face to face with them, yet.

To this American,"Capitalism" is a dirty word.
Anyone who loves freedom and their country should shut their purses to any thing that resembles it.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 10, 2021, 01:58:12 AM
Paper money was once backed by gold... Today, it is backed by nothing more than worthless talk from bankers.

It makes no sense to buy stocks when ,in my opinion, the stock markets are owned and operated by upper-class crooks.

Just think.The US government give Americans crumbs, in the form of stimulus checks, while giving billion to business owners. It's a provable fact that the US government can/and does create 'money' with nothing to back it but the paper its printed on.

My question: If, in fact US dollars aren't backed by gold,and the government can print paper backed currency at will, why not make ALL  Americans millionaires? That would solve many problems, and boast the economy. 
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 11, 2021, 12:37:43 AM
Question of the day. Is your country ready to 'blow'?

Pipelines are generally buried underground and operate in both remote and populated areas, with major crude oil and natural gas pipelines servicing most major Canadian cities. Pipelines are a safe, reliable and environmentally friendly way of transporting oil and gas.

In 2019, there were 614 reported pipeline incidents in the United States, resulting in the death of 10 people, injuries to another 35, and about $259 million in damages. ...Feb 21, 2020Oil and Natural Gas Pipelines
Pipelines are a critical part of Canada’s oil and natural gas infrastructure. Pipelines are the safest and most efficient way to move large volumes of oil and natural gas from development areas to refineries, petrochemical plants and even to our homes and businesses for use.

There are more than 840,000 kilometres (km) [521951.801 miles]of pipelines cross Canada, and they are all regulated (source: Natural Resources Canada). The federal government regulates about 10% of Canada’s pipelines, or more than 73,000 km, which are primarily large transmission pipelines. The remaining pipelines are regulated provincially.

The ''federal government'the article is referring to is the US Government. Thousands of Canada's oil and gas pipelines are underground,throughout the United States.

I did research on gas pipeline and I can assure you the United States is not the only country set to 'blow.'

Money,greed,and power placed in greedy hands, is why we are getting a rude awakening, with everything that is taking place in the US and elsewhere.

The thing is, the under ground bunkers[the billionaires have had built, over the years, won't hold but a chosen few-regardless of how much money one has.

Go ahead let the third-man[individuals like Jamie Dimon, choose your stock, and your board members.

NOTE: Transporting oil and gas: the world’s longest pipelines

Talal Husseini
14 September 2018 (Last Updated January 31st, 2020 07:34)
The pipelines that transport oil and gas around the world are objectively a marvellous feat of human engineering. Their sheer size and stretch is something to behold and construction can take several years, if not decades. Where are the world’s longest pipelines and what is the progress on their expansion?

Transporting oil and gas: the world’s longest pipelines
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World’s longest pipelines: Natural gas
West-East Gas Pipeline: 8,707km
The West-East Gas Pipeline is operated by PetroChina, which has a 72.26% interest in PetroChina Pipelines. Upon full completion, it will top the list of the world’s longest pipelines. It comprises a main trunkline (phase I) and eight branches. Phase I connects the Tarim Basin gas fields in Xianjing to China’s biggest city, Shanghai, stretching 4,000km. The pipeline passes through no fewer than 66 cities in ten provinces, and the gas is used for electricity production in the Yangtze River Delta.

Originally having the capacity to hold 12 billion cubic metres of natural gas per year, the pipeline was expanded to 17 billion cubic metres in 2007. Ten new gas compressor stations were built to support the extra gas. The total cost of the project was estimated to be $5.7bn.

Phases II and III of the pipeline both stem from the main pipeline, spreading from Xianjing in a number of different directions. The capacity of the second phase pipeline is 30 billion cubic metres of gas per year and cost the company $20bn, while phase III can hold another 30 billion cubic metres annually.

GASUN, Brazil: 4,989km
Still under construction, the National Unification Gas Pipeline (GASUN) will connect the Gasbol pipeline in Bolivia with the northern Amazon and northeast Brazilian states. With a total length of almost 5,000km, the first stage of the pipeline stretches 2,260km from Mato Grosso do Sul in central Brazil to the state of Maranhão, passing through the capital Brasilia. Construction began in 2006 and was scheduled to be completed in 2007.

The Gasbol pipeline connects Bolivia’s reserves in the Rio Grande region to Porto Alegre on Brazil’s southeast coast, stretching 3,150km across two pipelines, with a maximum capacity of 11 billion cubic metres of natural gas. The entire project is expected to be completed in 2026 at a cost of $2.48bn.

In August, five Brazilian companies expressed their interest in purchasing 10 million cubic metres of gas per day from 2020 onwards.

Bolivian Minister of Hydrocarbons and Energy, Luis Sanchez, said in a government newsletter: “We are negotiating new markets to generate better prices and conditions for the Bolivian State and expand the revenues of the country.”

Yamal-Europe Pipeline: 4,196km
The Yamal-Europe pipeline connects the natural gas reserves of Western Siberia in Russia to Austria, stretching 4,196km across Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, and Slovakia. Yamal II redirects from Belarus through Poland to Austria.

With a diameter of 142cm, Yamal-Europe is considered the world’s widest pipeline, able to carry 33 billion cubic metres of natural gas through 14 compressor stations. The majority of the pipeline, which runs through Russia, is owned by national energy giant Gazprom.

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Yamal II, which runs through Poland, is operated by EuRoPol Gaz, a joint venture between Polish PGNiG and Gazprom, with each holding a 48% stake. The remaining 4% is owned by the Polish Gas-Trading company.

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There have been plans to build a second leg of the pipeline in the last decade, with Russia investing approximately $5bn in 2013. This could lead to completion of the second leg as early as next year.

Trans-Saharan Pipeline: 4,127km
Still in the development stages, the Trans-Saharan pipeline is planned to stretch 4,127km from the gas-rich lands offshore and onshore Nigeria to the Hassi R’Mel gas fields in Northern Algeria. From there, it splits into the three separate pipelines destined for the European market.

If completed, the pipeline will transport 30 billion cubic metres of gas across the Sahara desert. It is estimated to cost around $13bn in total for pipeline construction and gas gathering stations.

However, a source close to The Guardian told the news agency in March: “The investors are aware that Nigeria is currently facing the challenge of meeting its gas obligation to neighbouring African countries through the West Africa Gas Pipeline Company, due to insecurity in the Niger Delta.

“If we are unable to deliver gas to Ghana and Togo, how can we meet the demand for gas in Europe through the Trans-Sahara Gas Pipeline? Ghana has started looking elsewhere for its gas supply and this is not good for the country and investors in the pipeline project.”

World’s longest pipelines: Crude oil
Eastern Siberia-Pacific Ocean Oil Pipeline: 4,857km
The Eastern Siberia-Pacific Ocean Oil Pipeline (ESPOOP) is a 4,857km project operated by Russian oil transportation company Transneft. Construction of the pipeline began in 2006 near the town of Taishet in the Irkutsk oblast in central Siberia, and will connect Taishet to Kozmino on the eastern Siberian coast through two pipelines connected at Skovorodino near the northern Chinese border.

In 2009, Russia signed a deal with China to construct a separate branch of the pipeline, capable of supplying China with 15 million tonnes of oil, or 300,000 barrels, per day until 2029, in exchange for a loan of $25bn to Transneft and Rosneft for pipeline and oilfield development. Russia began its oil exports to China in January 2011. The pipeline runs from Skovorodino to Daqing and is approximately 992km in length.

As of 2018, Russia is China’s biggest oil supplier and Gazprom plans to build a new 3,000km pipeline that will link Eastern Siberia to the Chinese border states, according to the BBC.

Druzhba Pipeline: 4,000km
The Druzhba pipeline is said to be one of the world’s longest oil pipeline currently completed. Druzhba runs from Almetyevsk in central Russia to Schwedt in northern Germany, incorporating 20 pumping stations along the way. Construction of the pipeline cost around $5.92m and consists of nearly 730,000t of pipe. It has a maximum capacity of 1.2-1.4 million barrels of oil per day, with work currently underway to increase this in the section between Belarus and Poland.

Russian gas company Rosneft is said to be interested in creating a pipeline branch from the Druzhba pipeline to supply more oil refineries in Germany, with executive director of Rosneft-Germany, Brian Chesterman, telling Russian national newspaper Kommersant that it could take three to five years to complete, according to Reuters.

However, VTB capital analysts told Reuters: “Given that the project might require the approval of the European regulators, we think it could well be some time before any potential construction starts.”

Keystone Pipeline: 3,456km
Running from the Keystone Hardisty terminal in Alberta, Canada to the Patoka Oil Terminal Hub in Illinois, US, the Keystone Pipeline transports up to 830,000 barrels of oil per day.

Since its construction, two more phases have been completed, which effectively connect Alberta to Houston, Texas, through joining points at Steele City, Nebraska and Cushing, Oklahoma.

The fourth phase, known as Keystone XL, was designed to connect Albert to Steele City, via a shorter route through Morgan, Montana. However, this phase has been hit with several delays due to protests from environmental groups and the US Environmental Protection Agency over the sensitive terrain and the increased risk of oil spills.

In 2015, the Obama administration delayed the construction of Keystone XL based on these concerns. In an address to the nation on 5 November 2015, Obama said: “America is now a global leader when it comes to taking serious action to fight climate change. And frankly, approving this project would have undercut that global leadership.”

However, President Trump has since revived the project, making an executive order in January last year to permit the Keystone XL project. In November 2017, 210,000 gallons of oil leaked from the pipeline in South Dakota.

Kazakhstan-China Pipeline: 2,798km
The Kazakhstan-China oil pipeline connects Atyrau on the Kazakh Caspian Sea to Xianjing in central China. It is considered to be China’s first direct oil import pipeline from central Asia, carrying 20 million tonnes of oil, or 142 million barrels per year.

The pipeline is supplied by both the Aktobe region oil fields and the Kumkol field in Kazakhstan, as well as by the offshore Kashagan field in the Caspian Sea. It is also used to transport oil from Russia’s western Siberia to the Atasu oil terminal in the Karaganda region of Kazakhstan.

The recent decision by five Caspian Sea states on maritime sovereignty has opened the region to explore more than 20 billion barrels of oil and 6.8 trillion cubic metres of natural gas, paving the way for greater exports to Europe via the Trans-Caspian pipeline.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 12, 2021, 01:32:44 AM
Question of the day:  Should one push their lifestyle on other people?

A court in China’s eastern Jiangsu province recently ruled in favour of a publisher that described homosexuality as a “psychological disorder” in a university textbook.

As an American, I support, the court in China's ruling.

It is a mental disorder.

Until you've had children, or grandchildren sexually molested/raped by a pervert...don't defend the sick mindset of gays/lesbians  to me.

It's a person's choice [true] but keep your sex life to yourself. I'm sure there were people of the same sex having sex, when I was growing up, but they respected themselves enough to keep their sex life in the bedroom.

Once being gay meant being happy and nothing more.  Thank you China.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 13, 2021, 11:08:00 PM
Question of the day: Which department in state/or federal government approves/disapproves  which country/countries  Americans pay to ship food products into the United States?

As an American, I do NOT approve of  buying food, from any other country, that can be grown in the United States of America...  And if ANY country is illegally shipping/bringing, any kind of product, in to my country-you are on notice - [read it any way you want to]
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 14, 2021, 10:15:09 AM
Question of the day that won't be answered until another day:

Are computer programmers responsible, for the world of crime growing all across the internet?

There is Nothing private on the internet- just peoples' private and non-private  information stored on gigantic computers,that have been created to store the life history of anyone/and everyone. It's  my guess the computers storing the information is used to blackmail and/or manipulate individuals and events- by those who call themselves 'owners' of the information.

Computers, thanks to computer technology, and computer programmers-in my opinion is now the number one threat to the whole of humanity. 
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 15, 2021, 11:05:47 AM
Question of the day: Should the American government ,or any government, have world power [dictatorship] over another country and its people?

China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States are often called world powers by academics due to "their political and economic dominance of the global arena." They are the only nations to have permanent seats with veto power on the UN Security Council.

Anyone who believes that the United Nations was created to bring about world peace needs to read their own history.

As an American, going to a public school in the 50's and 60's, I was taught about my country,its people, and other countries and their people. I was spared [along with other students] any kind of negative about other countries and their people. I don't know what other students drew from being educated by a public education system, but I learned to respect all people and their countries. I even had a pen-pal [Linda] who lived in Finland.

The United Nations is a hard pill to swallow. My father ,who was a WWII veteran, seemed to have lost respect for any kind of dominant authority. Doing research on many subjects, and knowing my government's part in world affairs, make me a shame that people [American voters] so willingly put so many American lives on the butcher block. They should have vote for the person! Not the party.

I am a 100% much so I would give up something I want from insure that the blood-sweat and tears, that have long nurtured the 'Liberty tree,'  were not given 'freely' in vein.

Should the American government ,or any government, have world power [dictatorship] over another country and its people?

The United States of America's people are not the slaves of any man... or country.

If you truly love your people-work to shut the UN down.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 16, 2021, 10:49:29 AM
Question of the day:    What's the real story behind the United Nations, one power agenda?

The onset of the Second World War showed that the League of Nations had failed its primary purpose, which was to prevent any future world war. The League lasted for 26 years; the United Nations (UN) replaced it after the end of the Second World War and inherited several agencies and organisations founded by the League.

The United States refused to join the League of Nations!
Interesting ,after WWII, its described as a founding member of the UN[the offspring of the League of Nations].

What's the real story behind the forming of the League of Nation [the United Nations]?

Added March 18,2021:
 "When I cast my mind back to 1927, the year that I first joined the
     Council, it seems little short of a miracle that the organization
     could have taken root in those days. You will remember that the
     United States had decided not to join the League of Nations.... On
     the domestic front, the budget was extremely small, taxes were
     light ... and we didn't even recognize the Russians. What could
     there possibly be for a Council on Foreign Relations to do?

     "Well, there were a few men who did not feel content with that
     comfortable isolationist climate. They thought the United States
     had an important role to play in the world and they resolved to try
     to find out what that role ought to be. Some of those men are
     present this evening."

Don't under-estimate the American people..... Knowledge is power.
History has away of coming to the forefront. Communist haven't  changed -neither have Americans.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 17, 2021, 02:56:43 PM
"The financial history of the United States is not complicated nor difficult to  understand.   This is due to the fact that the government has been and is an honest government..."

This was written about the US government in 1921.

What happened!?

Greed happened, and once the greedy figured out how to manipulate the financial system, for their's and their family's benefit, few honest men/women can be found in banking or other finance businesses.

For those misguided souls who believe they own any property outside their own country, you don't. You and your money are just pary of the game of 'monopoly' to see who will be the last man standing.

I'm not against world trade. I'm against world manipulation, and one world government.

Do you know the fate of every country's economical system rests in the hands of others besides the stock holders, who have willingly put power -of attorney in another's hands?

I bet you never bothered reading the fine print,before signing everything you own over to another to take care of?
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 18, 2021, 09:10:18 PM
Question of the day: Would you knowingly give your child a toy that would harm him/her?

Doing non-stop research-I come across information that sends chills down my spine. That makes me wonder if  the devil himself is  heading some institutions...I mean, a person with a heart would never allow harm to befall innocent children. But. Some toy companies are putting dangerous stuff into the making of the toys they are selling to unsuspecting parents,and others who buy toys.

  9. Is there evidence that children are more sensitive to the effects of DINP and if so how
should that be incorporated into any risk determination?
No data are available on the effect of DINP on children or immature experimental
animals, nor are there data that indicate that immature animals are more sensitive
to causes of spongiosis hepatis, the critical endpoint used by the Panel in the
DINP risk assessment.
10. How should background levels of DINP and other phthalates be incorporated into a
determination of risk?
There are no data on the interaction or additivity of dialkyl phthalate-induced
toxic effects. Even if they act through a common mechanism, DAP effects are not
necessarily additive, although the assumption of additivity for low exposure levels
is a generally accepted conservative approach to addressing this source of
uncertainty, as well as one that has theoretical support in the case that damage
occurs by statistically independent increments.
However, because of the difficulty in developing reliable estimates of phthalate
exposure for the population of interest (infants and toddlers) and uncertainties on
how exposure estimates should be combined for comparison with the ADI, further
explicit consideration of environmental background DAP exposures is not

11. What conclusions, if any, can be reached about the skin penetration of DINP as a
result of dermal contact? Should potential risks from dermal exposures be evaluated in
the same manner as those from oral exposure?
Dermal uptake of DINP may occur through prolonged contact of DINP containing
products with skin or mouth. However, detailed data on the prevalence of DINP
in consumer products that are in sustained contact with skin, such as sandals and
rainwear, are not available, and there is fundamental uncertainty concerning the
magnitude of dermal DINP uptake. Therefore, estimation of potential dermal
exposure from such products remains speculative.
12. Is the available exposure information adequate to permit the Panel to estimate the
probable harm, if any, to human health that will result from exposure to DINP from the
“reasonable and foreseeable” use of consumer products?
Estimated DINP exposures to children through toys and/or bedding/shoes/
clothing, and to adults from shoes/clothing, are preliminary at best. Recognizing
the limitations of the data, nevertheless, a prediction about the potential oral
exposure to children under the age of three to certain consumer products can be
made. Exposure information is inadequate to make predictions about dermal
13. If such an estimate were made, what methodologies were used in estimating the
magnitude of the risk and what was the rationale for adopting that methodology?
A safety factor approach was applied to a non-cancer endpoint. To induce liver
cancer, DINP acts by a PPARα mechanism that is pronounced in rodents and that
is not readily induced in humans under current exposure conditions. Thus, the
human risk from cancer was seen as insignificant.
14. What are the uncertainties attendant with determining the risk to children from
exposure to DINP in consumer products?
There are uncertainties associated both with the determination of exposure and the
determination of hazard. Those associated with exposure include:
• lack of knowledge about what portion of toys contain DINP
• lack of knowledge about what other consumer products contain DINP
• lack of knowledge about how much DINP migrates out of toys and
other consumer products
• uncertainties about how much time each day a child spends with toys
and other DINP containing objects in their mouths
• lack of knowledge about how much, if any, DINP would be dermally
The uncertainties associated with the hazard include:
• the degree to which spongiosis hepatis in rodents is relevant to humans
• how to extrapolate an effect from a lifetime exposure in rodents to a
two-to-three year exposure in young children
• lack of knowledge of effects of early in life exposures; there are no
toxicological data for exposures corresponding to infancy and toddler
• lack of knowledge of effects in non-rodents; there are no chronic
studies in non-rodent mammals
• lack of knowledge of PPARα expression and related responses in the
young; there are no data in human infants and children and scant data
in non-human species
• lack of knowledge on mechanisms by which PPARα induces rodent
liver tumors
15. What is the risk to children from the oral exposure to DINP?
One of the two estimates of plausible upper-bound DINP exposure listed in Table
IV-7 (Section IV) is greater than the ADI of 0.12 mg kg-1d-1 recommended above
for DINP. Namely, the estimate of 0.28 mg kg-1d-1 for ingested DINP among any
children 0-18 months old who mouth PVC plastic toys containing DINP for 3
hours/day exceeds the recommended ADI. This implies that there may be a risk
of health effects from DINP exposure for any young children who routinely
mouth DINP-plasticized toys for 75 minutes/day or more. For the majority of
children, the exposure to DINP from DINP containing toys would be expected to
pose a minimal to non-existent risk of injury. Further research addressing topics
listed above (see question #14) could reduce the uncertainty associated with this
characterization of DINP risk from consumer products....
In December 1998, the Commission staff completed an analysis, “The Risk of Chronic
Toxicity Associated with Exposure to Diisononyl Phthalate (DINP) in Children’s
Products.” As a result of this analysis and recommendations made by CPSC staff, toy
manufacturers voluntarily agreed to remove DINP from rattles and teethers and another
phthalate from pacifiers and baby bottle nipples. In addition, a number of large retail
chains agreed not to sell rattles, teethers, pacifiers, or baby bottle nipples that contained
phthalates. Staff indicated at that time that there were a number of uncertainties in the
staff’s analysis and recommended that the Commission:
• continue work to develop a laboratory test method that more accurately
estimates the amount of phthalate released when products are mouthed by
• conduct additional testing of products intended for children under 3 years of
age that contain DINP

Wake-up to the reality-some among us are nothing more than 'lowlifes' who feel nothing, but the pleasures that their money can buy. I for one will shine the light into the darkest pit-to save  children from being the victims of the fallout of greed. How many children have been harmed/killed by innocent looking toys?
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 19, 2021, 10:46:23 AM
Question of the day: How many Chemical plants are in your state?

Are chemical plants dangerous?
Chemicals are toxic and highly flammable, making chemical manufacturing plants extremely dangerous. Common injuries that occur at chemical plants include chemical burns, trips and falls, overexertion, cuts and scrapes, chemical exposure, and inhalation of chemicals.

Environmental agencies claim that simply living near a chemical plant puts individuals at risk of contamination and disease exposure.

The top 10 states with the greatest number of chemical facilities with dangerous chemicals are:
Texas 1424 facilities.
Illinois 939.
California 886.
Iowa 874.
Kansas 666.
Indiana 458.
Nebraska 456.
Minnesota 429.

In 2014, Senator Edward J. Markey (D-Mass) warned Americans that chemical facilities "threaten the lives of Americans."

Senator Edward J. Markey (D-Mass) released an analysis prepared for him by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) that details how many chemical facilities in each state threaten the lives of Americans.

At a joint Senate hearing on chemical safety and security, Senator Markey detailed how thousands of facilities in all 50 states contain hazardous chemicals that could be attacked by terrorists, or could harm or kill Americans living nearby during an explosion like the one that rocked a West, TX facility in 2013.

“We’ve long known that our chemical facilities could be used as terrorist targets, and the resurgence of radical groups like ISIL should remind us to stay vigilant,” said Senator Markey, a member of the Environment and Public Works Committee. “Yet many of our chemical facilities remain vulnerable, and this analysis shows these risks exist everywhere across our country.”

The full analysis used data submitted by the chemical industry to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to calculate how many people would be threatened by the release of chemicals caused by a terrorist attack or accident at chemical facilities in each state. The EPA database includes facilities that use large quantities of 140 of the most toxic and flammable chemicals, including chlorine, chemicals containing arsenic, and propane. However, EPA has yet to update its list of dangerous chemicals to include ammonium nitrate, which is the substance responsible for the West, TX accident, as well as the 1995 Oklahoma City and 1993 World Trade Center bombings.

The top 10 states with the greatest number of chemical facilities with dangerous chemicals are:

1. Texas 1424 facilities
2. Illinois 939
3. California 886
4. Iowa 874
5. Kansas 666
6. Indiana 458
7. Nebraska 456
8. Minnesota 429
9. Ohio 402
10. Missouri 363

Texas had the greatest number of facilities that put more than one million people at risk, with 34 out of the 89 such facilities nationwide.

Following the West, TX explosion, the Obama administration released an Executive Order to better secure our nation’s chemical facilities. Yet during the Senate hearing today, Senator Markey noted that the Agencies responsible for implementing the order had not taken several actions to secure facilities with chlorine, or ammonium nitrate, the chemical used during the World Trade Center attack in 1993, the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, and was the volatile chemical that exploded in the 2013 Texas tragedy.

Enemy within? There's much more to "chemical plant history" than meets the eye. The most interesting thing is: who,which countries, owns the chemical plants operating in the United States of America.

The owners of some Georgia chemical plants may surprise you!

Today, the lives of Americans are threatened by foreign countries who, like snakes, have slime their way onto American soil, under the disguise 'of doing business.' 

Old news could save your life! Never take freedom for granted.

Guess which banks are in the chemical business!?
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 21, 2021, 04:55:45 PM
Question of the day: Are they American soldiers or not?

American soldiers are many blooded, by birth or by choice.
Should American soldiers be addressed as "American soldier"?

Seven stories from World War II, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq, with special emphasis on the 442nd  Regimental Combat Team, the “Go for Broke” outfit of Japanese-Americans who fought valiantly in Europe during World War II. Many of these men put their lives on the line for their country while their families were confined to internment camps back in the States.
The fact that the article above saw fit to deprive Americans, of various bloodlines- of their well earned title as an "American Soldier," is shameful.

"He looked at me in the eye and he said, 'You're a traitor.'" -Grant Jiro Hirabayashi [American soldier WW2]

“On streets, online and in many Asian-owned small businesses, we are seeing physical assault, verbal harassment and refusal of service,” JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon wrote in a memo to staff seen by Bloomberg. “These racist acts cannot -- and will not -- be tolerated.”

What's wrong with America!? The Jamie Dimons of the world. As an American, I'm sick of bankers using the racist card to manipulate people/and their money.

I have 3 different bloodlines running through my veins. I am not irish-America, French- American or Indian-American. I am 100% American.

Be careful when stirring the 'American melting-pot'.......

The soldiers who fought/fight under the American flag are the truest meaning of what it means to be an American.

Thank you American soldiers  The writers of history have done a great injustice to many Americans.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 22, 2021, 12:03:13 PM
Question of the day: What is the one thing that links all Humanity?

It's not Language...
It's not blood...
It's not skin color...

The spirit resides in us all...actions speak louder than words ,
as to the power that works through all.
A heart to feel, or not feel, is given equally to all.

There are many languages
There are many bloodlines
There are many skin colors
all processing the ability to
make the world a better or
worse place for us all.

The spirit dwells in us all
Some are guided by heart
others are not.

We all can feel love and hate.
It's just a matter of ones choice.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 23, 2021, 10:33:25 PM
Question of the day: What color is the collar around your neck?
When I searched for the definition of 'white collar workers' I never realized there was so many collar-colors for people.

Blue collar workers work most often in a non-office setting [construction site, production line, etc.]. They use their hands and physical abilities to perform their duties.Blue-collar jobs are typically classified as involving manual labor and compensation by an hourly wage. Those who have this sort of job are characterized as members of the working class.

That was me... I was one of the first women in the state of Florida to work in construction.I was a member of the working class. I used a five pound axe to beat wood stakes in the ground,8and 10 hours a day,some days.

"Pink ghetto" The term was coined in 1983 to describe the limits women have in furthering their careers since the jobs are often dead-end, stressful and underpaid. The term pink ghetto is just simply another way of describing pink-collar work.

I don't know about 'pink collar' because I was working in construction in 1983, right along side of male construction workers.

Red-Collar Worker – Government workers of all types and farmers. Derived from compensation received from red ink budget. Also in China, refers to Communist Party officials in private companies. Open-Collar Worker – is a worker who works from home, especially via the internet.

Still haven't figured out how farmers fit in as red-collar workers, along with government workers.   
Unless it's because the government has long paid farmers NOT to farm....

Grey-collar refers to the balance of employed people not classified as white- or blue collar. ... Grey-collar workers often have licenses, associate degrees, certificates or diplomas from a trade or technical school in a particular field.
First thing that come to mind: Bankers.

Invisible collars are the ones the elite use [like dog collars]to control the lives of lower class people.

Now this collar has 'communism' written all over it:
Yellow Collar workers are the next generation of workers, which demands new skills and attitudes.

Whatever happened to 'follow your dream' become what you want to become.Not, what any government or individual says you got to be.

Oh,yeah,A white-collar worker belongs to a class of employees known for earning higher average salaries doing highly skilled work, but not by performing manual labor at their jobs. White-collar workers are the "shirt and tie" set [office jobs], Workers who don't like "getting their hands dirty."

I was a construction worker, who, on some jobs, was waist deep in water and mud..... I don't mind getting my hands dirty if it's for work, or in my flower garden.

Those who have never had to work for food,shelter; who have lived off the blood, sweat and tears of the labor of others, surely have earned the title 'black-collar workers.'
I cannot imagine being so heartless.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 24, 2021, 06:31:22 PM
Question of the Day: Should all thieves be treated equally, for committing the same crime?

An Alabama man who served 36 years in prison for stealing $50.75 (£41 today) from a bakery will finally be released. Alvin Kennard was given a life sentence without parole in 1983 after being convicted of first degree robbery. But because he had two previous convictions he fell foul of Alabama’s infamous Habitual Felony Offender Act, known as the “three strikes law”.

Wow! Duh! Some in the banking business openly steal trillions of dollars and never spend a day in jail,much less prison. And there is no 'three strike law' for those committing the same type of crime again and again.

J.P. Morgan Securities Admits to Manipulative Trading in U.S. Treasuries

to shareholders
The Firm has demonstrated sustained, strong financial performance

We have generated strong ROE and ROTCE over the past 10 years, while growing average common equity by over 50% from $146 billion to $229 billion and almost doubling average tangible common equity (“TCE”)1 from $95 billion to $183 billion, reflecting a compound annual growth rate of 5% and 8%, respectively over the period.

I guess the elite really think they deserve what they steal from people in the USA and worldwide...

Rep. Alan Grayson: $12 Trillion Gone and No One Punished:

Alan Grayson on the Worst Deal Since Manhattan Was Sold for $24 in Trinkets

For as long as greedy politicians [State governors, legislators, congressmen and US Presidents] move to the tune of people like Jamie Dimon [JPMorgan], crooks in the banking business; will have a free ride stealing from the American people.[a GET OUT OF JAIL FREE card]

Sad but true! What begin as a business, to help people handle their money more wisely,is now in the hands of thieves,inside and outside the United States of America..
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 25, 2021, 10:53:43 PM
My question of the day: Do you think there's more or less communist propaganda today ,than there was in the 50's , 60's etc?

With so much misinformation  on the internet about communism, it is little wonder that the younger generations are [could be] confused about  what the real communist agenda is.

As an American who cherishes the freedom my forefathers fought for, and many died for, I  stand ready always to defend my country, and my fellow Americans. Unlike many,older Americans, at 72, I am not to old to remember the sacrifices  made by the American people, or the money spent to help other countries rebuild after WWII.

Communist countries have long sought to destroy the United States of America...... Which is a little strange since.. for many  years  thousands of foreign students, from communist countries, have come to my country for an education.....

China and other communist countries, hate the United States, because the US government  will not desert the non-communist countries.

It's going to take more than communist , working from within, to destroy the only country in the world whose people represent, the best from, every country in the world.

China take your communism-keep it in your country. If people there get tired of it-they will make the sacrifices American have made for the liberty  we enjoy today.

Communist propaganda  never changes....

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 27, 2021, 12:31:20 PM
Question of the day: Are China's communist dictators ready to, back their mouth pieces up?

From my old tattered and torn history books... The bs over Formosa Island (Taiwan) is nothing new.... jt

A dictatorship exists in a country when one man, or group men and women, runs the government without respect for the rights of individual citizens. A dictator takes over a country during a time of confusion and hardship, when people are more concerned about food than political rights.

Before the end of WWI,there was a revolution against the Russian rulers, in Russia. When it happened, Communists moved in, took over the revolution, and remained in control.

Shortly after WWII ended, a large group of Chinese Communists, aided by Russia, succeeded in overthrowing the Chinese Nationalist government led by Chiang Kai-shek. Chiang, a considerable part of his armies, and members of the Nationalist government escaped to the island of Formosa, off the coast of China. This group still claims to be the rightful government of China. The United States recognized this claim and offered military protection to Formosa.

Mao Tse-tung,Red China's dictator, says that this island belongs to Red China.If not for the United States fleet that guarded the waters around Formosa Island,The communist would have invaded it.

Mao,after WWII, let it be known that he intended to spread communism by force.This caused friction between Mao and Khrushchev;while Mao argued that war between the communist and capitalist worlds cannot be avoided; Khrushchev argued that communist will get control of the world without a war.

"Let us help you in your struggle against imperialism" the Communists cried. "Let us show you how a people's government will cure all your ills." The people in some countries listened long enough to permit Communists to seize power. Russia and China were among them.   

China! Communists will NEVER  bury the United States of America from within....and Americans have long been set on ready[if there's a need to protect individual rights and liberty]for war.

Americans are not in the dark as to your long sought-after plan to rule the world.

My suggestion to all people who cherish their freedom: cut ALL ties with China and any other communist country. Enough is enough....put up or shut up!

China can't un-write history-like all communist ,all they can hope for is that history books will be destroyed -so the communist can rewrite history for every country on earth.   
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 28, 2021, 10:52:25 PM
Question of the day:  Should John Forbes Kerry be representing the American People?

As the largest India-headquartered multinational in North America, Tata has 12 companies covering diverse operations.

In the United States these include soda ash mines in Wyoming, coffee manufacturing in Maryland, steel manufacturing facilities in Ohio and Pennsylvania, tea manufacturing and processing in Florida, Georgia, and New Jersey, The Pierre hotel in New York, the Taj Boston hotel and the Taj Campton Place hotel in San Francisco, animation labs in California and IT development centres in California, Michigan, and Ohio.

Note: Karl Slym, managing director of India's Tata Motors Ltd  , died on Sunday after falling from a high floor of a hotel in Bangkok, the company said.

In his remarks, Kerry said he believes that the United States and India should continue to reach for the ambitious target that Vice President Joe Biden laid out last summer in India, to push from USD 100 billion to USD 500 billion a year in trade.

"And whatever impediments we may face along the way, we need to always be mindful of the opportunities and the bigger picture around this," he said.

"It is completely in our mutual interest to address those obstacles that kind of raise their head here and there as you go along the way and to remember that a lot bigger opportunities will come from more robust ties, so we need to keep our eye on the prize out there and not get dragged down by one small or lesser particular aspect of a restraint," he added.

"The bigger picture has to guide us and the end game has to guide us," Kerry said.

It's interesting that John Kerry would use the words "end game". But. Then again, he does have some family ties to Tata [in India].

With people like John Kerry involved in American politics  its a wonder there's any thing left that's American made.

But. Kerry is right. The 'end game' is right around the corner.

He's not called 'John Forbes Kerry' for nothing.

Forbes & Company - one of the oldest businesses in the world
The booming economy of India has brought to our attention one of the oldest companies in the world which is still in business. Forbes & Company Ltd was established by a Scot in Bombay in 1767.  It was taken over in the recent years by the Tata Group and is now part of the Shapoorji Pallonji Group.

Imagine that!  And now President Biden has Kerry trying to 'fix' problems with China....
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 30, 2021, 12:13:00 AM
Question of the day: How important is life to you?

Microsoft’s MSFT  billionaire founder Bill Gates is financially backing the development of sun-dimming technology that would potentially reflect sunlight out of Earth’s atmosphere, triggering a global cooling effect. The Stratospheric Controlled Perturbation Experiment (SCoPEx), launched by Harvard University scientists, aims to examine this solution by spraying non-toxic calcium carbonate (CaCO3) dust into the atmosphere — a sun-reflecting aerosol that may offset the effects of global warming.
First of all. Sun dimming[solar radiation management] is nothing new.

Just like 'chemtrails'[the spraying of nano aluminium ,and other chemicals in the sky] is not new.

It's not nature that's reeking havoc in the sky. It's geoengineers. Those who never consider the threats to mankind that their 'experiments' with weather are creating.

I do not intend to argue my case for stopping any further geoengineering- my argument would just be dismissed as 'conspiracy theory'. That's why I have chosen to lay this subject on the table, and let the reader do the research and decide for him or her self.

 (II) through the use of land-based, sea-
                        based, or space-based systems using radiation,
                        electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or
                        other energies directed at individual persons
                        or targeted populations for the purpose of
                        information war, mood management, or mind
                        control of such persons or populations; or
                            (III) by expelling chemical or biological
                        agents in the vicinity of a person.
            (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
                    (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information
                    (ii) chemtrails;

Introduced in House (10/02/2001)
Space Preservation Act of 2001 - Reaffirms U.S. policy that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes.
Directs the President to: (1) ban U.S. space-based weapons and remove from space any existing U.S. weapons; (2) terminate research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all such weapons; and (3) direct the U.S. representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.

Oh,my! I forgot we now have a 'space' branch in the US. Does this mean we now have     "space-based weapons."

It's not those in the sky that should worry people living on the planet. Its the mindset of ignorance, that seems to have found its way into the mindset of many, who are the trigger for furture destruction of the planet.

Have we learned nothing from past experiments that killed and maimed millions!?

I spent years ,taking pictures and making videos [documenting the sky I live under].
I researched and found government documents about man's manipulation of the sky.

Stockholders/shareholders is not life more precious than the all-mighty-dollar?

Stop feeding money to the lunatics' who have long been experimenting with the air we need to breath--if we are to live.

NOTE: You got to remember you and your loved ones will be breathing this in 24 hours a day, non-stop.
Effects on Humans: Calcium carbonate dust is a physical irritant of the eyes, nose, mucous membranes,and skin of humans.  Contact of Calcium carbonate dust with the eyes causes redness, pain, and inflammation of the eyelids while contact with the skin causes local irritation of moderate degree [NLM1991]. Exposure to large amounts of the dust of this sunstance causes coughing, sneezing, and nasl irritation [NLM 1991]. Although chronic exposure to pure calcium carbonate does not cause pneumoconiosis, similar exposure to impure limestone [calcium carbonate] containing 3% to 20% quartz may pose silicosis risk [ACGIH 1991].

Of course what is dumped in the air is going to be pure...... I don't think so.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on March 31, 2021, 02:35:02 PM
Question of the day: What is the truth? Are the "facts" being feed to people worldwide[over the internet,in books,by daily news reports,etc] 'facts based on truth" or "facts based on what a writer claims to be the truth"?

As an American, who has lived over seven decades [70 years]  I am knowledgeable on what was reported  as facts...during my life time. And I can honestly tell you the hands of deceit have used pen and internet to manipulate what people believe today.

I will not write the ending to this round table question ,this day. But, I will post the question, as a warning to any who profit from twisting the truth, at the expense of world peace.

Israel .....Jews on American soil..... Truth is coming for the liars-who profit from robbing the world of the peace-it is destined to receive.

What price did you take- in exchange for your souls!?

The heart of mankind rocks the future of humanity.

Note: Just to clarify: "Israel"= Israel government and  'Jews on American soil"= Jews who work from the inside of my country to gain a throat hold on the American economy.

I have my daddy's WWII book. It contains pictures of the Holocaust victims. jt

Chase Manhattan, J.P. Morgan Are Named in Suit on Holocaust
By Paul BeckettStaff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal
Dec. 24, 1998 2:37 am ET
NEW YORK -- In the first Holocaust-related class-action lawsuit to involve U.S. banks, Chase Manhattan Corp. and J.P. Morgan & Co. were named in a case filed Wednesday on behalf of Holocaust survivors and victims' relatives that seeks reparations for assets allegedly seized during the Nazi occupation of France.

The suit is related to one filed in federal court in Brooklyn last December. That suit claimed that seven French banks and Barclays Bank, a unit of Barclays PLC of the United Kingdom, aided the expropriation of Jewish bank accounts and other assets by Vichy French authorities and then failed to account to Holocaust survivors and victims' families after the end of World War II. Barclays last week settled its part of the suit by agreeing to pay $3.6 million to Jews whose assets were seized from its French branches during the war.

The new lawsuit, in which Chase and J.P. Morgan were named along with the same seven French banks, was filed on behalf of 17 named non-American Holocaust survivors and victims' relatives and is seeking class-action status on behalf of potentially tens of thousands of others, said Kenneth McCallion, partner in Goodkind Labaton Rudoff & Sucharow, the lead lawyer on the case.

Deutsche Bank Named
Chase and J.P. Morgan are the latest banks to be implicated in wrongdoing concerning assets seized from Jews during the war. Deutsche Bank , which is acquiring Bankers Trust Corp., has also been named in several suits that may have an impact on the regulatory approval process for the $10.1 billion takeover.

And in August, Swiss banks agreed to pay $1.25 billion to compensate tens of thousands of Jews whose assets were seized during the war.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on April 01, 2021, 11:49:35 PM
Question of the day: Whose life will you touch for the better?

At my age, I can always find something to bring to the table. But. To tell the truth, I think I'm wasting my time and the readers time. I've said nothing that some other caring soul hasn't already said. I can't snap my fingers,and magically put what it took me a life time to learn, into anyone else's mind. I can't take my heart in my hands and show anyone why I care about complete strangers whose lives mine will never cross..

But in shutting the Round Table down...let me say, there's not a person rich or poor who doesn't have the power to make a difference,for the better, in someone else's life.

     I have always said,"If I can't make the world a better place, before I die,let me at least do everything I can to make sure that I don't leave it a worse world than the one I was born into."

I owe much to strangers who touched my life, and unknowingly helped make me who I am today.

Make the world a better place....stop giving money to charities/foundations; take your blinders off...there are needy people not far from your fancy houses.

You may never know, what your show of kindness does in a strangers life.

But, I can assure you- the receiver of your good deed will never forget "the stranger who made a difference" in their life.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on May 15, 2021, 07:45:10 PM
Question of the day: will Israel finally meet its fate?

Israel  is being illegally occupied by the Jews -according to maps dating back 100 years.
Some might find this interesting:

Of all the sombre ironies of history none throws a more sinister light on human nature  than the fact that the new-style nationalist Jews, on the morrow of the most appalling of many persecutions that their race had endured,should at once proceed to demonstrate, at the expense of Palestinian Arabs whose only offence against the Jews was that Palestine was their ancestral home, that the  lesson learnt by Zionists from the sufferings which Nazis had inflicted on Jews was, not to forbear from committing the crime of which they themselves had been victims, but to persecute,in their time, a people weaker than they were.  The Israeli Jews did not follow in the Nazis' footsteps to the extent of exterminating the Palestinian Arabs in concentration camps and gas chambers; but they did dispossess the majority of them, to the number of more than half a million, of the lands which they and their fathers had occupied and cultivated for generations, and of the property that they were unable to carry with them in their flight, and thereby they reduced them to destitution as 'displaced persons'. [A Study of History, by Arnold J. Toynbee,Oxford University Press,New York & London,1957, pages 177-178]
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on May 16, 2021, 04:08:06 PM
Question of the day: Does every American stand behind Israel?

Many in US Congress would like the world to believe that "every American" supports Israel's evil deeds against the  men, women and children of Gaza. Israel rightfully belongs to the Palestinian Arabs. The United Nations ,some in the American government [and others] helped the Israeli Jews create a country [Israel] that in reality did not exist. As an American who supports the Palestinian Arabs- I find President Biden and many in Congress to be driven more by their religious beliefs than common sense.  The American government should stop playing politics with the lives of innocent men, women and children.

And those in US Congress should stop using congressional records to document their beliefs.... Any one watching know Gaza is the victim of a greedy people, who wrongfully believe they are God's chosen ones.    The god that I know expect his  faithful followers to have hearts-that act compassionately toward their fellow man.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on May 17, 2021, 07:10:29 PM
Question of the day:  What country[ies] sold Palestine out for the Jews?

On November 2, 1917, Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour writes an important letter to Britain’s most illustrious Jewish citizen, Baron Lionel Walter Rothschild, expressing the British government’s support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The letter would eventually become known as the Balfour Declaration.

Britain’s support for the Zionist movement came from its concerns regarding the direction of the First World War. Aside from a genuine belief in the righteousness of Zionism, held by Lloyd George among others, Britain’s leaders hoped that a statement supporting Zionism would help gain Jewish support for the Allies.

On November 2, Balfour sent his letter to Lord Rothschild, a prominent Zionist and a friend of Chaim Weizmann, stating that: “His Majesty’s Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.”

The influence of the Balfour Declaration on the course of post-war events was immediate: According to the “mandate” system created by the Versailles Treaty of 1919, Britain was entrusted with the administration of Palestine, with the understanding that it would work on behalf of both its Jewish and Arab inhabitants.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on June 08, 2021, 02:18:59 PM
Question of the day: Why hasn't the truth about slavery been taught to American children? Slavery existed on American soil for over 100 years ,before the Declaration of Independence was signed. Slavery didn't begin in the United States of America, but-slavery
ended after the new nation was created.

Our children of the 'melting pot' regardless of the blood running through their veins ,are 100% Americans.

“SLAVERY IS NOT just something that just happened with the people who were white to people who were Black,” said Lisa Kinnemore, a member of Georgia’s state board of education, as it deliberated a resolution on Thursday restricting classroom discussion of racism. “Black people were actually slaves to Black people. It goes all the way to back even to ancient times, slavery in Egypt and Rome and all around the world.”

It's a fact that "the institution of slavery" was imported to the United States of America.

However, slavery in America begin in 1619 [ a year before the arrival of the Mayflower in New England] when the privateer The White Lion brought 20 African slaves ashore in the British colony of Jamestown, Virginia. The crew had seized the Africans from the Portugese slave ship Sao Jao Bautista.

The Captain of the White Lion, John Jope, traded the captured Angolans to the Virginians represented by Governor George Yeardley and his Cape Merchant Abraham Piersey. These were in turn taken into servitude in local homes and plantation.

Drawing on the latest research, this exhibit tells the story of the Africans' home in Angola, how they came to be enslaved aboard a Spanish slave ship San Juan Bautista, the terrible 10,000 nautical mile voyage that brought them to Virginia, and their lives on the farms and plantations in the new colony.

In late August 1619 the privateer White Lion arrived off Point Comfort near present day Fort Monroe. Aboard was a captive cargo of "..not any thing but 20. and odd Negroes, which the Governor and Cape Marchant bought for victualls…" (John Rolfe, 1619. Letter to Sir Edwin Sandys of the Royal Virginia Company).

These 20 individuals were the first Africans arriving in the new Virginia colony. Their names, given by Portuguese missionaries: Antony, Isabela, William, Angela, Anthony, Frances, Margaret, Anthony, John, Edward, Anthony and others whose names are not yet known.

The Virginia colony's first Africans had lived in the Ndongo Kingdom in Angola in West Central Africa on a lush, green, high plateau 150 miles from the Atlantic. The Portuguese and their mercenary allies, the Imbangala, waged war on the Ndongo kingdom, the most powerful state in the Mbundu region, to gain control of the region and provide slaves for the trade.

The Angolans on the White Lion had been taken from the Spanish slave ship San Juan Bautista. The Captain of the White Lion, John Jope, traded the captured Angolans to the Virginians represented by Governor George Yeardley and his Cape Merchant Abraham Piersey. These were in turn taken into servitude in local homes and plantation.

The exhibit details how the Africans came into the possession of Captain Jope and taken aboard the White Lion, including the politics and piracy that put them in the hands of the Englishmen who had taken them from the Spanish slave trader and diverted them from their original destination of Vera Cruz in Mexico to Virginia.

Contained in the exhibit is a pair of slave shackles from the period, a hoe and axe dating from around 1660 unearthed at the Thomas Jarvis site in Hampton (where the Hampton History Museum now stands), images of period maps of Virginia and West Africa, 17th century artists depictions of encounters in Africa and arrival in Virginia, as well as charts detailing the arduous journey that the Africans were subjected to, a model of the White Lion and other interpretive materials.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on June 17, 2021, 02:53:10 PM
Question of the day:      Which came first the chicken or the egg?

The chicken of course. That's like asking who come first the parents or the baby.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Sirena_321 on June 19, 2021, 11:09:56 PM
If were going by the Bible, god created the animals, hence god created the chicken. Therefore the chicken came first.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on June 19, 2021, 11:36:21 PM
It's a scientific fact that for there to be  a baby chick- there must be the joining of a male sperm and a female egg.  Any way you look at it the parents  had to exist before the baby human or the baby chicken.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on June 25, 2021, 11:44:59 AM
Question of the day: Is Jamie Dimon a racist?

I think so....going by JPMorgan's dealings and interest in U.S. Steel Company.

On August 26, 2007, U. S. Steel also entered into a Commitment Letter with JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. (“JPMorgan Chase”), J.P. Morgan Securities, Inc. (“JPMorgan”) and The Bank of Nova Scotia (“Scotia Capital”) pursuant to which (a) JPMorgan and Scotia Capital agreed to structure, arrange and syndicate for U. S. Steel two senior credit facilities in an aggregate amount of $900,000,000 (the “Facilities”); (b) JPMorgan Chase and Scotia Capital committed to provide the full amount of the Facilities; (c) JPMorgan Chase agreed to serve as administrative agent for the Facilities; and (d) Scotia Capital agreed to serve as syndication agent for the Facilities. The Facilities consist of a $400 million one-year term loan and a $500 million three-year term loan, both of which have terms substantially similar to U. S. Steel’s existing five-year $750 million revolving credit facility.

 United States Steel Corporation is an integrated steel producer with annual raw steelmaking capability of 17.8 million tons.  U. S. Steel is engaged in the  production, sale and transportation of sheet, plate, tin mill and tubular steel
mill products, coke, taconite pellets and coal; the management of mineral resources; real estate development; and engineering and consulting services in the United States; and, through its subsidiary U. S. Steel Kosice, the
production and sale of steel products and coke in Central Europe.

What's more interesting is that while Jamie Dimon (JPMorganChase & Company)plays the role of antislaverist; JPMorgan is/has been a 'book runner"for U.S. Steel:

One such company was United States Steel as Baker served as a director on the company’s financial board alongside J.P. Morgan and a few others since the inception of the company in 1901.[7] Morgan played a leading role in the merging of Andrew Carnegie’s Carnegie Steel Company and William Henry Moore’s National Steel Company to create U.S. Steel, a massive enterprise that eventually became one of the largest producers of steel globally.[8] Morgan chose to involve his close friend, Baker, in the project perhaps seeking Baker’s financial expertise and influence....

According to journalist Douglas Blackmon’s 2008 Pulitzer Prize-winning book Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II, U.S. Steel was among the largest users of convict leasing which he calls “slavery by another name.”[9] Blackmon asserts that the “millions of tons of coal brought to the surface…” by convict laborers who were occasionally worked to death was “essential to U.S. Steel’s production of iron.”[10] Through U.S. Steel’s acquisition of the Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company, it was able to operate seamlessly in the South, accruing millions of dollars in profit off the backs of forced labor.[11] Although Baker is not mentioned by name in Blackmon’s book, Baker figured prominently into U.S. Steel’s leadership group, and as a result, made significant financial and personal investment in the company. It was, therefore, in Baker’s best interest that U.S. Steel reached substantial profit margins.

In this day and time it pays to know ones country's history....Which is fast being ereased and reinvented over the internet , by those who have the most to gain by keeping people ignorant to what is and what is not true.   jt
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: jt72 on July 11, 2021, 11:15:19 AM
Question of the day: How many pot-heads know the side effects of marijuana?

My daughter would be the first to tell you that weed has ate up her memory. But because she is addicted to marijuana ...she just makes it a part of her 'normal life style'. At age 40 she was dignosed as having dementra. It breaks my heart to know that any country would make  legalize/or even tolerate those distribing [selling weed]in ANY form to its citizens. Greed don't have feelings and the greedy just don't care.  jt

Marijuana, weed, cannabis, hashish, bud, skunk, ganja, ‘erb and so many other names are used for the naturally occurring substance that has been used for hundreds of years as a relaxant or a mild hallucinogenic. Marijuana is actually a Spanish word and refers to the dried leaves, flowers, stems or seeds of a hemp plant known as Cannabis Sativa.

One of most active ingredients of marijuana is Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, commonly referred to as THC, which has the potential for making humans high.

When THC enters the blood, its mind-altering capabilities come into action pretty quickly. THC and some other compounds can affect the way your body works.

Most types of cannabis are mild, however, strong cannabis (e.g. skunk or purple haze) or too much usage can have stronger effects such as hallucination while some people also report increased anxiety and paranoia. Although it doesn’t augment risk-taking behavior like alcohol does, weed does impair mental functions such as memory, attention, and performance, which makes driving or operating heavy machinery risky.

While many believe marijuana to be extremely dangerous, it’s actually considerably less harmful than other substances in the same class such as barbiturates, amphetamines etc. In fact, occasional use of weed is hardly ever associated with any health issues. Even for serious users, science has yet to prove any solid evidence of major health problems for the users or the society. Especially in individuals who are otherwise healthy, the biggest real harm marijuana can do is impaired control of movements.

When smoked, marijuana can increase your heart rate up to two times from the normal rate. The increased heartbeat rate is often linked to increased chances of heart attack, and that’s why doctors recommend heart patients to stay away from any form of cannabis.

Modern scientific studies confirm that unlike tobacco cigarettes, smoking cannabis isn’t linked to higher chances of getting lung cancer. But it can cause a cough and chest colds, and extended heavy use is also associate with lung irritation.

Some people believe they achieve better concentration and mental stability after smoking weed, but THC in cannabis can have both short-term and long-term effects on the human brain.

For men, frequent heavy use of marijuana can affect sexual health by lowering their testosterone levels and sperm count, which could result in reduced fertility. Likewise, pregnant women, as well as babies in their womb, can be affected by marijuana use. For instance, because of the high levels of carbon monoxide in the smoke, birth weight could be lower than normal of the children whose mother has been smoking weed during pregnancy.

The study was a meta-review of research looking at sperm counts over the past four decades, and it included 185 studies that encompassed more than 40,000 men. Between 1973 and 2011, the paper's authors concluded, the men's sperm counts fell by more than 50 percent.

The rising use of these products has raised questions about the impact on the heart. Evidence has shown that recreational use of any of these products is not beneficial for the heart, although specific mechanisms behind these effects are still to be determined. Recent studies have determined specific pulmonary effects, particularly with THC-containing e-liquids causing e-cigarette or vaping product use-associated lung injury  (EVALI).

“Even if the cardiovascular signal turns out not to be as strong as for pulmonary disease, it is not likely that these behaviors and these products are going to be safe overall,” Michael J. Blaha, MD, MPH, director of clinical research and professor of medicine at the Johns Hopkins Ciccarone Center for the Prevention of Cardiovascular Disease and a Cardiology Today Next Gen Innovator, said in an interview.

The American Heart Association published a scientific statement in Circulation, which stated there is no documented benefit of cannabis use for CVD prevention or treatment. Moreover, the statement detailed preliminary evidence that suggests cannabis use may harm the heart and blood vessels.

AHA scientific statement writing group member Jamal S. Rana, MD, PhD, FACC, chief of cardiology at Kaiser Permanente Oakland Medical Center and adjunct researcher in the division of research at Kaiser Permanente in Oakland, California, told Cardiology Today the statement included the latest available data and addressed the clinical, policy and public health implications of the issue.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Noizchild on July 13, 2021, 10:13:40 PM
Question of the day: Why do you keep ignoring me when I am asking you to stop posting in the thread?
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: watcher111 on August 28, 2021, 07:15:04 PM
Question of the day: Why do you keep ignoring me when I am asking you to stop posting in the thread?

Is someone ignoring you? How rude!   w
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Noizchild on August 28, 2021, 10:42:03 PM
Is someone ignoring you? How rude!   w

It was a certain thread I was trying to let die and the person kept pretending like I didn't post a tall.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on October 13, 2021, 12:31:52 PM
Question of the day: When is a life not a life?
One cannot kill what is not alive.

Not always do those feeding people the news do justice to their occupation

I helplessly watched my baby struggle for life, in the palms of my hands. I witnessed my baby's life and death, while I watched. My baby was only 24 weeks old but he was a fully formed tiny baby.   

People who think abortion is a woman's right to choose would change their mind ,if they had witnessed what this woman and mother  had witnessed , holding  a tiny human-being [she wanted so to live] in the palms of her hands.

I  dare any real woman [or any man] to read Baby Justice's story and defend legalized abortion.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Noizchild on October 13, 2021, 08:21:50 PM
When is it a good time to let a thread die?
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Vienna on October 14, 2021, 08:44:26 AM
Now, this minute, immediately.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on November 07, 2021, 04:48:51 PM
Now, this minute, immediately.

What's the hurry Vienna? Are you for killing new born babies? Just wondering. jt
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on November 13, 2021, 04:18:04 PM
The question of the day:
Are climate changes caused from acts of nature or  intentional acts of man?

Both. Nature reacts naturally  to chemicals, nano aluminum (contrails and chemtrails) and the other forms of weather manipulation used by scientists and others in the business of  trying to use weather to control the rest of the human population.

It was once said, "It would be easier to kill a million people than it would be  to control a million people.."  History shows how the misuse of science has killed or maned millions of people: 
The atomic bombs used during WWII  and Agent Orange used during the Vietnam War,  seventy years later, are still killing and causing deformities in the off springs of past generations.

Between 1952 and 1960 there was a reduction in the number and size of commercial cloud-seeding contracts and an increase in the attention paid to research in cloud physics.  In 1959, the National Science Foundation Atmospheric Science Program gave   $2,920,768 to research  groups.

Eleven of the forty-six grants, totaling $1,101,000, were made for studies in weather modification. Private research groups and university scientists received  grants for such studies as:

Investigation of Precipitation Processes and Efficiency of Pacific Coast Storms
Physics of Clouds and of Cloud Modification
Field Studies in Cloud Physics
Randomized Cloud Seeding
Research in Cloud Physics, and
A Study of Statistical Evaluation of Weather Modification

It's not climate change humanity should be worried about. The weather is only reacting to  the whims of scientists and  weather modification programs.

Could it be we have all fallen victim to science, and some peoples greed for power over something as natural as the air we breath?

I recommend that every country leader "stop" wasting money on weather modification programs that have the potential to destroy all humanity, and use that money to help build a better future for those living under your country's flag.

And, if you can't do that at least be man/woman enough to tell the truth about science's part in weather change.

Note: This article's author has never retract his claim about the dumping of coal ash in the sky by those using coal ash to modify the weather.  Abstract
The widespread, intentional and increasingly frequent chemical emplacement in the troposphere has gone unidentified and unremarked in the scientific literature for years. The author presents evidence that toxic coal combustion fly ash is the most likely aerosolized particulate sprayed by tanker-jets for geoengineering, weather-modification and climate-modification purposes and describes some of the multifold consequences on public health. Two methods are employed: (1) Comparison of 8 elements analyzed in rainwater, leached from aerosolized particulates, with corresponding elements leached into water from coal fly ash in published laboratory experiments, and (2) Comparison of 14 elements analyzed in dust collected outdoors on a high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filter with corresponding elements analyzed in un-leached coal fly ash material. The results show: (1) the assemblage of elements in rainwater and in the corresponding experimental leachate are essentially identical. At a 99% confidence interval, they have identical means (T-test) and identical variances (F-test); and (2) the assemblage of elements in the HEPA dust and in the corresponding average un-leached coal fly ash are likewise essentially identical. The consequences on public health are profound, including exposure to a variety of toxic heavy metals, radioactive elements, and neurologically-implicated chemically mobile aluminum released by body moisture in situ after inhalation or through transdermal induction.

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on November 17, 2021, 02:04:30 AM
Question of the day: 
Why did the chicken cross the road?

Chickens normally are kept in chicken pens. The only way a chicken would cross the road is if a chicken got out of the chicken pen.

Chickens don't usually live next to paved roads. But if a chicken does cross a road all you gotta do is get a handful of chicken feed, get where the chicken can see you;start throwing chicken feed ; calling real loud, "chick-chick-chick" and the chicken will cross back across the road.
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on December 06, 2021, 01:48:23 PM
Question of the day: Who were the minute men?

Having attended public school in the 1950s I am well educated on American history that was being taught then.

Longfellow in paul Revere's Ride, describes  their fighting at Concord thus:

You know the rest. In the books you have read,
How the British Regulars fired and fled--
How the farmers gave them ball for ball,
From behind each fence and farmyard wall,
Chasing the red-coats down the lane,
Then crossing the fields to emerge again,
Under the trees at the turn of the road,
And only pausing to fire and load.

Minute Men, the soldiers of the American Revolution who, in the anxious months before the war broke out, held themselves ready to fight at a minute's  notice.  It was the minute men who met the British on Lexington Green that eventful April morning of 1775, who fired the " shot heard round the world" at Concord, who flocked swiftly and silently to the British path of retreat until thy seemed, as one British officer wrote "to drop from the clouds."

Their deadly fire poured into the ranks of the British fleeing madly to Boston, until that goodly company of troops was utterly demoralized.

The minute men were in the van at Bunker Hill; they played a prominent part throughout the Revolution.

A *queer-looking body of men they were, made up of farmers, school teachers who dropped their books at the sound of battle, half-grown boys, and the like, clad in any garments they happened to own, but they could fight.

*queer as meaning 'strange'

History excluded from American history books today.   jt

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on January 05, 2022, 04:22:33 PM
see post below. Thank you.
Jan Tetstone
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on January 06, 2022, 02:25:05 PM
Question of the day: How much were you taught about American history?

by Jan Tetstone

The most difficult thing for me to face, as an American, is the reality that as a people we have allowed, and continue to allow, the few to dictate the value of each of us as human beings.

Our country was not freely given to the American people; it was first created in the hearts and minds of a freedom loving people.

Like countries on the other side of the world who to this day, still, send armies to invade and steal land that rightfully belong to others; today the American people live on land native Americans once hunted on,built homes on, and raised their families on.

I am an American of the "melting pot" with French, Indian and Irish blood running through my veins; today there are those among us who continue to use the "race card" to divide the American people.

 Let me tell you a little history, about the first Americans ,and other Americans who together created the greatest country in the world, with their blood sweat and tears . And a whole lot of prayers!

But first a little history about Pontiac's War:  The Indians  who had helped the French could not believe that their ally was beaten... English fur traders moved about among the Indians, giving them rum and cheating them of their furs....Pontiac,the Ottawa chief, felt that the English had to be stopped. He quietly moved among the Indians, uniting the tribes from Canada southward almost to the Gulf of Mexico. French agents also moved among the Indians, saying that a large French army was on the way to recover the lost land for them and for France.

The French army didn't come, and the Indians didn't wait. In May of 1763 the Indians took the English settlers by surprise, captured a number of their forts, and drove the settlers out of the areas. The following year, Pontiac was defeated, and the war ended.

When the Indians were fighting to save their 'homeland' they weren't  fighting Americans; they were fighting British armies  sent by King George III.

Americans didn't exist, when France and Britain were dividing the land that, belonged to the Indians, long before the British or French had ever set foot on it.

 The French and Indian War was a fight between England and France over who should control North America. It began in America.Because the English won. English influence became stronger in America while French influence became weaker.

In 1763 England had become a world power with possessions spread around the world. But. The price of gaining this power and the many wars had left England with huge debts that the English taxpayers could not pay because of the heavy tax load  that they already were forced to carry..

King George and Parliament began to look toward the colonies for money to pay England's debts, and to handle current expenses.

After the war England changed the policy by which it governed the colonies. The colonists resented the change and rebelled against England , their mother country.

Thereby, opening the way for the American Revolution in which only 3% of the first Americans fought for the God given right to life,liberty and justice  for all.

I might note at this point, that the promise Winston Churchill
made in reference to  Hitler  destroying Great Britain..... echoes down through history the sentiments of the 3% of Americans who fought to be free from British rule in 1776 . Nothing  but " blood, toil, tears,and sweat... whatever the cost  my be; we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

Note: America's history didn't begin when American history did! Just as slavery didn't begin with the American people importing slaves! Regardless, of what the last five or six generations of educators , and /or any Queen or King would have you, and the world believe.

Note: Before getting a world of devoted educators upset about the last two lines, let me add: There will be another article, in the near future titled " Educating American children."

Before the American Revolution the thirteen colonies /states were confined to the Atlantic Coast.The first permanent settlements were:
1. Virgina -1607
2. Massachusetts--- Plymouth--------------- 1620
3. New Hampshire---Portsmouth-------------1623
4. New York-----------Fort Orange------------1624
                                 New Amsterdam -----1626
5. New Jersey-------Jersey City Region-------1630
6. Maryland-----------St' Mary's-----------------1634
7. Connecticut-------Connecticut Valley----    -1633-36
8. Rhode Island------Providence-----------------1636
9. Delaware-----------Fort Chriatina-------------1638
10. North Carolina--Albemarle Sound-----------1653-60
11. South Carolina--Charles Town-------------1670
12. Pennsylvania----Philadelphia----------------1682
13. Georgia-----------Savannah--------------------1733

Patrick Henry eloquently expressed the feeling of the "Minute men" and all who fought for liberty,in the speech he made on March 23, 1775, in Virginia:

"I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to Justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves. . . . Has Great Britian any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none.  They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other.   They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging.  And what have we to oppose them? Shall we try argument? We have been trying that for the last ten years.. . . We have petitioned--we have prostrated ourselves before the throne . . . and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge in the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free . . . we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! . . . Three millons of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us . . . There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged, their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come! Gentlemen may cry, peace, peace,- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"

Americans will have a better chance of staying free in this day and time, if  we all understand the common-goals that unite us ,a many blooded people, into a nation of people devoted to the belief that "all men are created equal, with a God given right to live and die free."

The American Revolution was the beginning  of the first  government on earth to be "of the people, for the people and by the people."

After the war that ,much like the civil war,  pitted family against family and friend against friend, the United States of America was born by the writing of the declaration of Independence. It is the birth certificate of our country. It supersedes  the U.S. Constitution, and states ,clearly, the reasons for our departure from being ruled by Kings.

In 1775 the king proclaimed the Americans rebels and forbade commercial intercourse with them. Parliament closed the American ports. The British burned Falmouth, Maine "Portland," in October and Norfork , Virginia, on January 1, 1776. At the time the *second continental congress was in session[ with members such as  Samuel Adams, and Patrick Henry, waiting for a decison on the next step the congress would take. It was evidence was clear now that the colonies must submit or fight. Many of the conservatives gave up their opposition to independence.  Thomas Jefferson expressed the general opinion when he wrote:
"I will cease to exist before I yield to a connection on such terms as the British Paliament proposes."

Thomas Paine stated the case of the colonies in plain language in a pamphlet called "Common Sense," by "an Englishman." What all had been thinking was here plainly stated: "The period of debate is closed. Arms, as the last recourse, must decide the contest.  The appeal was the choice of the king and the continent hath accepted the challenge."   In later years Paine became unpopular on account of his writings against the Christian religion; but history will long remember the important part he played in the American revolution.

*Note: The United States of America congress  has not been formed at time. So we are still dealing with a king formed government.


Roster of Soldiers and Patriots of the American Revolution Buried In Indiana

Compiled and Edited by Mrs. Roscoe C. O'Byrne, Chairman, Brookville Iniana
Published by   Indiana Daughters of the American Revolution  1938
Mrs. William H. sCHLOSSER -State Regent 1937-1940

This volume of Revolutionary Soldiers buried in Indiana is presented with the
hope that it will materially assist in increasing the membership in D.A. R.
Chapters in the State.
‘Within these pages will be found authentic service for 1394 soldiers and
patriots. .

*.The compilation of these records has been the project of Indiana Daughters.
for the past four years, during the administrations of Miss Bonnie Farwell
and Mrs. William H. Schlosser, Indiana State Regents.

This volume is not the work of one person, but the work of many.Chapter  members
have read all the D.A.R. Lineage volumes, Probate Court Records,Wills, Deeds,
and Marriage Records, prior to the date 1850; also early newspapers of the
counties and County Histories. Cemeteries have been searched for the graves.
Many persons, not D.A.R.‘s, have contrib...

 Stop feeding the stock market. It only exists to make the rich richer-and the poor  beggars.

Today, the news we get is controlled by those who inherited a different kind of life style than the average man and women; those who attended Harvard, Yale, or another of the Univerities that was founded by Toties long before  the American Revolution.

1635: John Harvard received his M.A. from Cambridge University, England. 1636: First College in American colonies founded. The “Great and General Court of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England” approves £400 for the establishment of “a schoale or colledge” later to be called “Harvard.”

Drafted by Henry Dunster, the Charter of 1650 called for the Harvard Corporation to consist of seven individuals: the President, five Fellows, and a Treasurer. The Charter named the Corporation as the “President and Fellowes of Harvard College” and transferred to them, in “perpetual succession,” the duties of managing the College.

The first changes to the Corporation’s structure since 1650 were implemented in 2010. These include an expansion of the number of Fellows, the establishment of terms of service for Fellows, and the creation of standing committees.

Let's see.

Eight Presidents of the United States have graduated from Harvard University: John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, John F. Kennedy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama.

Note:Joseph R. Biden, Jr. is our 46th President- He didn't go to Harvard. But he was vice-president to the 44th President Barack H. Obama who did.

Yale University had its beginnings with the founding of the New Haven Colony in 1638 by a band of 500 Puritans who fled from persecution in Anglican England. It was the dream of the Reverend John Davenport, the religious leader of the colony, to establish a theocracy and a college to educate its leaders. Purchases and plans for a college library date back to 1656 but were suspended when King Charles II forced the colony to unite with Connecticut in 1665.

Presidents that attended Yale University include William Howard Taft, George H.W Bush, and George W. Bush for his undergraduate studies, prior to attending Harvard University. Both Gerald Ford and Bill Clinton attended Yale Law School as well.

Americans have been played like character in a play book: We no long control the US Ports-the air space above our heads;and God only knows what else the "Loyalists" have stole from the all of us, the people of the United States of America:

In our country , unlike many countries, there is no national port authority.
Rather authority is diffused throughout all three levels of government-federal, state and local. That stems from the
federal character of the U.S. Constitution, which reserves certain powers for the national government and others strictly
for the states. The Canadian system, by contrast, is subject to the general purview of the central government and more
specifically to enactments of the national parliament. The enactment in June 1998 of the Canada Marine Act changed
somewhat the character of the federal port system and permits the divestment of many ports previously administered by
the Ministry of Transport to non-federal public and private entities. However, the nation’s major seaports are governed
and managed by federal port authorities and ultimate statutory authority constitutionally remains with Parliament.

Note: Parliament- (in the United Kingdom,UK) the highest legislature, consisting of the sovereign, the House of Lords, and the House of Commons. "the Secretary of State will lay proposals before Parliament"

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on January 07, 2022, 04:06:27 PM
Question of the day- Have you ever been so down and out that you would 'beg' strangers for help?

While researching one of the spammers who posts on MWC boards my search took me to the  freebeg site. The people posting on the site were begging for help. Little do they know :

Post: watch out!!!!!! seriouslty
I had the same person. email me again. after reading more about this site. this person is a royal robber everyone. a programmer.

I did a UK Company search:  jt


Company number 10465494
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Registered office address
    1st Floor 69-70 Long Lane, London, United Kingdom, EC1A 9EJ

Company status

Dissolved on
    23 October 2018

Company type
    Private company limited by guarantee without share capital

Incorporated on
    7 November 2016

Last accounts made up to 31 March 2018
Nature of business (SIC)

    78109 - Other activities of employment placement agencies

When Freebeg  was dissolved  :6 officers / 4 resignations

I am very unhappy, that so many people bit into the Freebeg scam. Nothing is free in this life---not in the end.

An example of a "freebeg":

"My wife and I have been living in my 2005 Chevy Tahoe close now to about 8 months and things are going downhill mentally and spiritually. Our relationship has been on trial as well. We both have low income jobs and work our butts off every day, but still barely making ends meet. Our SUV is breaking down one expensive part at a time and repairs are costly and unaffordable. We are living in Texas for now, but need to get back to Indiana so she can see her grandmother before she passes. She is almost 90 years old and is not in good health. Her grandfather has already passed 2 years ago and it has taken a toll on her mental health. Her biological father was never in the picture and her mother didn't have time for her. So her grandparents took on the responsibility with loving and caring arms and raised her. They are all the family she has ever known and the thought of never being able to get back to Indiana to see her grandmother again is tearing her apart. She has been in a deep depression for the last few months and it takes everything just to get her up to go to work. It's breaking my heart to see her like this. I've never done anything like this before and normally wouldn't ask for money, but I dont no what else to do or haven't a clue where to turn. It's our dream before we pass on this earth to be able to make one last trip back home again in Indiana, and then travel the U.S.A. to see national parks and beautiful country sides. To appreciate the nature this Mother Earth still has before us as humans destroy it. If we were to receive anything at all it would be very much appreciated and valued. We would utilize it to get back on track and pay whatever forward we can for the rest of our years to come. We always try to give to people that are less fortunate than us, even when we struggle ourselves. Because we know what it feels like to be "down on our luck". The goal in life is to be kind to one another. Life is way too short to be sad and angry. Thank you and God bless."

My guess is the spammer who I researched is not a beggar. But is a Freebeg site programmer.

People who get rich off the heartaches of others deserve nothing from life but contempt  for their low-life lives.  -Jan Tetstone
Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on January 08, 2022, 12:07:30 AM
We are all guardians of liberty. Americans represent the best and worst of every country. The signers of the Declaration of Independence supported the declaration, " with a firm reliance on the protection of the Divine Providence," and "mutually pledged to each other to support the declaration with their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. All they ask for in return was that we, Americans living today,and all Americans in every generation, make good use of the freedom; the first generation of Americans paid for with their blood, sweat, tears and prayers.

John Quincy Adams' message to our generation, past generation, and future generations: "Posterity--you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."

Those today who are working to destroy the United States of America's independence  along with the independence of other countries; have no idea of how powerful a united freedom loving people worldwide can be. And what they will do to preserve freedom.

Thomas Paine wrote in The American Crisis No. 1, 1776 :
 “What we obtain too cheaply we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated.”

The Declaration of Independence broke the chains kings and queens
had shackled the colonist in America with. It is one of the greatest documents of American history. In it we read that" all men are created equal," that all men have a right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,"the right of the government to rule is derived "from the consent of the governed" and that when a given government ceases to guarantee these privileges, "it is the right of the people  to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles,and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall  seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." The Declaration further lists  a long series of acts of  tyranny committed by King George III and parliament against which the colonies  had protested. The Declaration of Independence closes with these words: "these united colonies are,and of right ought to be, free and independent states."

About 80,000 Loyalists  fled to Canada or Britain during or just after the war. Because Loyalists were often wealthy, educated, older, and Anglican, the American social fabric was altered by their departure. American history brands them as traitors. But most were just trying to maintain the lifestyles to which they had become accustomed. After all, history is always written by the winners.

Interesting  that  the site owners felt the need to add
"After all history is always written by the winners."

Could it have something to do with the fact that the wealthy men, who would rather bow down to kings and queens, than fight for freedom, taught their offspring how to stay loyal to Britain from inside the United States of America?

Title: Re: Round table Question of the day
Post by: Heartsongsdiary on January 08, 2022, 04:30:26 PM
It's interesting modern day Tories are no different than the Tories who chose to be subject of King George III over being free men during  the American Revolution. I guess it is true  that the illusion of being free is enough for those who have never known what it's like to live free.:

Back to the offspring of  the Tories. It's amazing that anyone pondering and making aliving off American  stocks and bonds while owning businesses in the United States of America  would complain.

What history did the Tories pass on to their future generations?  Examples of staying loyal to Britain from inside the United States of America:

America’s Tories were among the British subjects who transformed Canada, which was largely French territory until 1763, into an English-speaking country. Today some 3.5 million Canadians—more than 10 percent of the country’s population—are direct descendants of Americans on the losing side of the Revolutionary War. But the world moves on. Memories fade, values morph, new people arrive. For more than two centuries, Saint John, New Brunswick, proclaimed itself the LoyalistCity, and schools were dismissed and merchants donned colonial garb when Saint John annually memorialized the arrival of Sarah Frost and her fellow Tories. Today, however, Saint John styles itself as “The Fundy City” and celebrates the ebb and flow of the Bay of Fundy’s tides, to the dismay of some.

“What exactly is a ‘FundyCity?’ ” grumps Eric Teed, an Anglophile barrister who is the former president of the New Brunswick chapter of United Empire Loyalists (UEL). “Saint John is the LoyalistCity, but now there’s all this cultural competition for heritage marketing.”

To keep their ancestors’ accomplishments from being forgotten, in 2001 the UEL published a curriculum aid for history teachers entitled The Loyalists: Pioneers and Settlers of the Maritimes. “We distributed it free of charge to all of the schools, but I don’t think it is being used,” says Frances Morrisey, a UEL descendant of one of New Brunswick’s founding fathers. “Loyalists gave Canada peace, order and good government, but now they’re being forgotten.”

Saint John’s mayor, Shirley McAlary, sees no cause for concern. “There are a lot of new people living here who have no connection to the UEL,” she says. “The Loyalist people are growing older and their children are leaving. Now it’s the Irish who are stronger and more united. It’s hard to keep history alive if it doesn’t change.”

In the nearby town of Liverpool, on Nova Scotia’s rocky Atlantic shore, history needs no re-creation. On the anniversary of George III’s birthday, John Leefe, whose Huguenot ancestors were forced to flee Mount Bethel, Pennsylvania, 220 years ago, bivouacs with the Kings Orange Rangers, a re-created regiment of 50 historical reenactors formally recognized by the British government. And each summer Leefe, who is mayor of the surrounding municipal region, presides over Privateer Days, a community gala celebrating Loyalist pirates who raided U.S. shipping following the Revolutionary War.

“My own family was living in America 100 years before the Revolution even began. Perhaps that is why I use every occasion to toast King George,” Leefe says with a smile. “Canada is a mosaic, not a melting pot, and that allows people to remember their family history,” he adds. “Loyalists still view the United States as a dysfunctional family we just had to leave.”

“We grew up with the knowledge that our ancestors were refugees who had been robbed and tortured because of their loyalty,” says Elizabeth Lowe, a fifth-generation descendant of Benedict Arnold’s cousin Oliver. “We may have learned to accept the Americans, but we will never forget our history.”

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Bankers and big business  know where and how many forgein businesses operate on American soil.

Why because states like New York, Delaware, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida allow any country to enter our country and set up shop.

When I begin writing this, it was my intention to tell a short story about the different bloodlines: Indian, Irish,German,French, Chinese, Japanese, and other American bloodlines  who made  sacrifices, many giving up their life, that our generation and all future  generations could inherit the right to live and die free.

There is no freedom living at the mercy of kings and queens.

As for those who do so willingly-that was your choice to make;as for me I will do everything in my power to insure that all future generations of American are never rule by kings and queens!

The United States of America doesn't have a mother country
the apron strings were cut  when the Declaration of Independence gave birth to a the United States of America.
Stop feeding the stock market. It only exists to make the rich richer-and the poor  beggars.

Today, the news we get is controlled by those who inherited a different kind of life style than the average man and women; those who attended Harvard, Yale, or another of the Universities that was founded by Tories long before  the American Revolution.