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Title: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: chidiwhite on March 05, 2019, 08:56:02 AM
This was the first question I asked myself before I began writing and it's indeed the first honest question every writer must answer to be able to last long in the writing industry.

As far as I am concern, I personally see writing as a gift that few people posses and since it is a gift, it has to be fun writing; yes I write for fun but I don't also deny the place of gain in writing!

What about you???
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: nosuchmember on March 05, 2019, 09:16:18 PM
This was the first question I asked myself before I began writing and it's indeed the first honest question every writer must answer to be able to last long in the writing industry.

As far as I am concern, I personally see writing as a gift that few people posses and since it is a gift, it has to be fun writing; yes I write for fun but I don't also deny the place of gain in writing!

What about you???

Being a heartwriter,making a profit from my poetry/writing has never been an option for me. Below is what I posted on my first 'Spirit Within Poetry" site  ,many years ago. A site that people from all over the world visited:

The poetry posted on The Spirit Within Poetry pages are not here to sway anyone's opinion- or to push any belief I may have on others. The poetry reflects my feelings and beliefs; my heartaches, my happiness, my life experiences; my dreams and my love for my god- and all people.

 I am not here for profit- My poetry will never be for sale. Because every word and thought are parts of me and four decades of my lifetime.
 It would be like selling a part of me.

Thank you,  for visiting!

© thespiritwithinpoetry
  My poetry is copyrighted in heaven.....
 One can not copyright work God owns.....
 My poetry belongs to the world.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130722100938/http://thespiritwithinpoetry.com/
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: HPvD on May 18, 2019, 06:08:29 PM
With many of the daily writing with things like writing notes, emails, blog posts, tweets, etc. etc. it's mostly simply practical gain.
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: trainer on May 22, 2019, 03:26:54 AM
I do both. I write for fun and for a living. A lot has changed since I last posted here. Freelancing as a tutor got a little too difficult: managing parents'/students' expectations, having to spoonfeed, and putting up with very little pay. I've now taken up editing and writing for a living. I edit research papers for enago (https://www.enago.com/) whenever I find the time and suitable assignments, and the editing I'm required to do involves a lot of rewriting, which is rewarding sometimes. Otherwise it's just tedious. On the other hand, I'm also looking to apply for SME (Subject Matter Expert) roles; these typically involve writing only. I've narrowed my choice down to this place called Bartleby (https://www.bartleby.com/) if enago doesn't work out. I'm also creating a new resume, and I never thought it'd be so time-consuming. I've been at it for a week now, and it still needs more work. That's as far as writing for a living goes. Sometimes I wonder how nice it would be to work for Wikipedia (for the simple reason that I really admire the place).
Writing for fun: I've been reading The Crying Lot of 49, which has inspired me to try some free association-based writing. That is, exploring the threads between things that pop into my mind as I write, even if these seem unrelated.
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: nosuchmember on May 25, 2019, 07:27:21 PM
I'm also creating a new resume, and I never thought it'd be so time-consuming.

trainer, I thought of you when I found this information about writing resumes.   jt

1. Cover all the basics

The goal of a resume is to best represent your relevant skills and accomplishments, and there are several ways to do that successfully. That said, every resume requires these basic elements:

•Relevant educational degrees or certifications and/or licenses. The importance of your educational background will vary based on the job or industry you’re interested in. If you have many educational credentials, you only need to include the ones that are most relevant to the job description.

•Relevant work and volunteer experience. Most people choose to list their experience beginning with their most recent job. Don’t include everything you did in your past jobs. Instead, focus on achievements over responsibilities.

•Contact information. Your full name, the city where you live, your email address and phone number. Because this personal information is sensitive, you should be cautious about who you share your resume with. Read over these guidelines for a safe job search to protect yourself.

•Relevant skills and your level of mastery (for example, “conversational Spanish” or “familiar with Microsoft Excel” vs. “fluent in Spanish” or “expert at Microsoft Excel”).

It’s important to note that the basics of a resume often do not include references. It’s a best practice to leave these off your resume. This helps you save space and also preserves the privacy of your professional contacts.
 
2. Explore other resumes for inspiration

It can be useful to see how other people have written about their skills and experiences. We have hundreds of resume samples for you to explore. Choose the job category and title that’s relevant to you and see samples from people with different amounts of experience. This is a great way to uncover stronger ways to describe your credentials and to avoid overused words.

You can also get a sense of the internal language used within a particular industry or company. You might have experience that isn’t directly related but is still highly relevant to the position you’re applying for, and you want to include it in your resume. Someone else’s resume might feature a similar history and offer an example of how to frame this experience in a compelling way.
 
3. Use as few words as possible

Employers need to quickly understand your work experience. Format your experience as a list of short, scannable statements, rather than writing out dense paragraphs. For example:

Too wordy: Applied expert budget management skills to achieve a 20% reduction in departmental expenses through diligent research, identifying significant inefficiencies.

More concise: Achieved 20% departmental cost savings by eliminating inefficiencies.

The typical resume is two pages maximum, so make sure all the information you’ve included is essential. If you can’t decide what is essential, ask yourself if what you’re including is relevant to what the employer is asking for in the job description.

It’s also important to consider the kind of work you truly want to be hired to do. In other words, don’t include past experience for tasks you strongly dislike doing. Keep the experiences that you want to keep building on and match what the employer is looking for—this meets the definition of essential information to include on your resume.
 

4. Quantify your accomplishments whenever possible

Numbers and data bring your work experience to life and help hiring managers envision the potential impact you could have in their organization. When you can, back up your achievements with real data to boost your credibility and add informative detail to your resume. For example:

Unquantified: Improved lead generation through strategic content marketing initiatives.

Quantified: Achieved 180% year-over-year lead growth through strategic content marketing initiatives.

[Read more: 139 Actions Verbs to Make Your Resume Stand Out]
 

5. Use keywords that employers are using in their job descriptions

Hiring managers want to see that you can speak their language and know the language that’s commonly used in their industry. When they see their own keywords mirrored back to them in your resume, it reinforces the idea that you’re a strong candidate for the role. And if your resume will be posted to an online database like Indeed Resume, the right keywords are critical to getting found by employers.

One way to become familiar with the different keywords is to experiment with different search terms on Indeed.com or on the Indeed app. Carefully read the job postings that interest you, and take note of the terms and phrases that employers are including there. You may begin to notice commonalities and can include some of these words or concepts in your resume if they are applicable to your background.
 

6. Proofread several times to catch typos and misspellings

Unfortunately, a single typographical or spelling error is sometimes enough to get your resume discarded early in the game. Proofread your resume multiple times, doing a thorough line-by-line, word-by-word edit. Reading content backwards—awkward and time-consuming though it may be—is a great way to catch minor mistakes that you might otherwise miss. And an outside perspective is always a good idea. Ask a friend, mentor, or family member to review your resume for you before you begin submitting it to employers.

A strong resume can streamline your job search process, helping you showcase your strengths and get one step closer to your dream job. With some diligent work up front—and by adhering to these six rules—you can turn this fundamental job search document into one of your strongest professional assets.

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/resumes-cover-letters/6-universal-rules-for-resume-writing

Pro tip: Combine your selection of action verbs with quantifiable results to show both what you did and the effect it had. For example, “Championed use of user feedback in program improvements, resulting in 50% boost in customer satisfaction ratings.”


Select from the following action verbs to give your resume an edge:

To demonstrate your strong work ethic or introduce your accomplishments, try:

Achieved
 Capitalized
 Deciphered
 Discerned
 Drove
 Enacted
 Endeavored
 Established
 Exceeded
 Sharpened
 Shattered
 Sparked
 Spearheaded
 Steered
 Stimulated
 Supervised
 Surpassed

Instead of “duties included,” “responsible for,” “served as,” or “actions encompassed,” try:

Accelerated
Accomplished
 Analyzed
 Assembled
 Built
 Founded
 Created
 Constructed
 Delivered
 Developed
 Executed
 Expanded
 Finalized
 Forged
 Guided
 Handled
 Headed
 Improved
 Increased
 Initiated
 Implemented
 Instituted
 Produced
 Reached
 Simplified
 Volunteered

To illustrate your communication skills, try:

Collaborated
 Conveyed
 Enlivened
 Instructed
 Performed
 Presented
 Spoke
 Trained

For creative positions, try:

Authored
 Brainstormed
 Briefed
 Communicated
 Conceptualized
 Curated
 Derived
 Designed
 Diagramed
 Drafted
 Edited
 Illustrated
 Imagined
 Influenced
 Intensified
 Modeled
 Proofread
 Published
 Researched
 Strategized
 Storyboarded
 Translated
 Visualized
 Wrote

For sales positions, try:

Captured
 Conserved
 Converted
 Earned
 Generated
 Maximized
 Negotiated
 Won

For management positions, try:

Advised
 Arranged
 Augmented
 Centralized
 Championed
 Differentiated
 Directed
 Empowered
 Endorsed
 Enforced
 Ensured
 Forecasted
 Fostered
 Identified
 Integrated
 Leveraged
 Reconciled
 Reduced
 Replaced
 Resolved
 Orchestrated
 Optimized
 Predicted
 Renovated

For financial positions, try:

Audited
 Classified
 Collected
 Equalized
 Dispensed
 Halted
 Investigated
 Lowered
 Maintained
 Minimized
 Recognized
 Secured

For technical positions, try:

Advanced
 Architected
 Automated
 Coded
 Deployed
 Detected
 Devised
 Diagnosed
 Discovered
 Formulated
 Installed
 Launched
 Networked
 Planned
 Programmed
 Rewrote
 Refined
 Tested
 Troubleshoot
 Upgraded
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/interviewing/action-verbs-to-make-your-resume-stand-out
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: trainer on May 27, 2019, 03:19:36 AM
Wow! That's comprehensive! A lot of extremely good points in that post.

I'm creating different versions of my resume. I have two I'm really happy with. I'm creating a third that's a cross between a cover letter and a resume; it's for research and editing jobs, and it's quite challenging to keep it concise and engaging.

Thanks for the info here!
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: Kit on May 28, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
Taking character exploits from the imaginary to the paper brings them life and I love them!  I get great pleasure from seeing their stories and then I wish others could feel the same pleasure.  I want to write in a way that makes readers feel what I feel, to take them on an emotional journey.  That’s why I want to hone my craft.  I write for fun and to share.  Getting published is the obvious way to share and if monetary gain comes with that, so be it, but really my focus is fun and sharing.

Kit
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: landmersm on May 28, 2019, 08:07:25 PM
I write because it's the only way to satisfy that itch, quiet those voices. The people in my head are dying to get out.


That sounds worse than it really is...... maybe. :-\
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: Kit on May 29, 2019, 01:20:30 PM
landmersm - I'm sure there's a "have your people talk to my people" joke in there somewhere.   ;D
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: HPvD on June 05, 2019, 04:19:38 AM
For what writing for gain is concerned,

With writing resumes it's about gaining trust that you have the right qualities for  specific jobs.

With writing blog posts - in a somewhat similar way - it is also about gaining trust that you have content that is valuable, informative, interesting or entertaining, and worth your (re)visits. 

 
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: HPvD on July 28, 2019, 02:52:17 AM
For what Gain is concerned,

On our Blogs, and In our Twitter Tweets we use our Writing, (and our Photo Collages!)
for Fun and for Gain, to get our Designs, Design- & Photography Skills
into your awareness,

So that you get interested to read some more (background info) about our Special Designs that we write about on our Blogs,

And that through - YOUR - comments & replies on our blog posts we also can get
aware of what you like the most, and what interests you, and possibly take it into account with making new designs.

We eventually hope that you will get intested enough to buy one or more of our Special Designs - ON - products that we sell in our webstore(s).

 

 

Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: nosuchmember on July 28, 2019, 05:00:02 AM
The different answers comes as no surprise. But. One I haven't saw yet is the one about 'control'. I've read that some writers fancy the power writing gives them to control the direction the readers thoughts go in.     jt
Title: Re: Writing for Fun or Writing for Gain?
Post by: YEMI MAHMUD on August 20, 2019, 05:32:36 PM
I agree with you that writing is inspirational, and it comes with ease and fun; the end not determined from the beginning.
However, writing, when mastered creates huge avenue for tremendous gains.