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Title: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on September 01, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
Autumn has come again and that is a wonderful thing. Tis writing season once again. People are starting to get ready for another November of Novel Writing Glory with Nanowrimo 2015. So, who's playing this year? This topic (a yearly thing, for those that don't know) is a place to chat about this year's Nano. If you have any questions, we have nano veterans (psst, this is like my ninth go at this thing).

You can sign up right now, and we always appreciate a declaration of intent.

Here's the link . . .
http://nanowrimo.org/

I'm going to spend the rest of tonight trying to find something to write about.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MiggsEye on September 01, 2015, 05:44:39 PM
Hi, Thatollie. I gather people taking this on have an idea what story they are writing, either by having developed an outline or some sort of story synopsis, prior to their start on Nov. 1. At this point I have neither. Though I have some ideas. Hmmm....

I've only writing very short works. It would be a bold move to write a novel now. Hmmm....
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: heidi52 on September 01, 2015, 05:48:36 PM
No, not everyone starts with a plan or  plot. There are a whole contingent of "Seat of the Pantsers" who just sit down and start writing.

The sitting down and writing is the important part, what you are working on not so much actually.  ;D

This will be my third. Haven't completed one yet. Three's a charm, right?.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on September 01, 2015, 05:55:14 PM
Hi, Thatollie. I gather people taking this on have an idea what story they are writing, either by having developed an outline or some sort of story synopsis, prior to their start on Nov. 1. At this point I have neither. Though I have some ideas. Hmmm....

I've only writing very short works. It would be a bold move to write a novel now. Hmmm....

Bold moves are the way to improve. You will learn a lot from just writing.

Also, this may help you.
http://blog.nanowrimo.org/post/65354932148/5-tips-for-nanowrimo-getting-started

No, not everyone starts with a plan or  plot. There are a whole contingent of "Seat of the Pantsers" who just sit down and start writing.

The sitting down and writing is the important part, what you are working on not so much actually.  ;D

This will be my third. Haven't completed one yet. Three's a charm, right?.

Number Six was the charm for me and I haven't won since.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on September 01, 2015, 06:18:23 PM
Gyppo offered some good advise for anyone considering joining in the NaNo writing.

You can see it here:
http://mywriterscircle.com/index.php?topic=39739.0


I've joined NaNo several years. Finished some of them. Unfortunately RL called a halt to lots of things, including writing for 2 years. Really missed it when I had to stop. There is something satisfying about seeing that word count go up and knowing ahead of time that you'll not be doing any editing until November is in your rear view mirror.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on September 01, 2015, 06:24:17 PM
Gyppo offered some good advise for anyone considering joining in the NaNo writing.

You can see it here:
http://mywriterscircle.com/index.php?topic=39739.0


I've joined NaNo several years. Finished most of them. Unfortunately RL called a halt to lots of things, including writing for 2 years. Really missed it when I had to stop. There is something satisfying about seeing that word count go up and knowing ahead of time that you'll not be doing any editing until November is in your rear view mirror.

You may also notice some advice from someone called thatollie. This is merely a coincidence.

Actually, I should probably do another tipsheet.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on September 01, 2015, 07:22:13 PM
For those who don't like to plan everything out...

A few years back I started NANO at the stroke of midnight with no more to go on than a post it note bearing three words.  Speed, Motorcycles, Candyfloss.  50,000 + words later I had never even mentioned the Candyfloss.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on September 01, 2015, 07:26:07 PM
For those who don't like to plan everything out...

A few years back I started NANO at the stroke of midnight with no more to go on than a post it note bearing three words.  Speed, Motorcycles, Candyfloss.  50,000 + words later I had never even mentioned the Candyfloss.

Gyppo

Did you ever get around to releasing it? I can't see it on your lulu page.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Laura H on September 01, 2015, 08:33:06 PM
I think I may go for it this year, Thatollie. Life should be calmer come November and I've got to get back into a writing routine.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on September 02, 2015, 08:48:29 AM
Did you ever get around to releasing it? I can't see it on your lulu page.

I put it in a safe place, and it is still safe, pending a thorough edit.  Oddly enough I was looking through it the other day and thinking about releasing Fast Lady into the wild.

As Mum gets older my non-writing life is getting more demanding, but the little red-headed heroine of that tale can't be denied forever.

It will happen.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: JewelAS53 on September 02, 2015, 09:19:47 AM
Was exhausted after the absolute marathon I had to do to complete the 50k words on time ;)

Thought I wouldn't give it another go, last year's 'win' notwithstanding.

But I have 3 ideas milling around, and signing up again just might be the impetus required to get them started/done/whatevered.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on September 02, 2015, 10:33:19 AM
Wish I could do this.  My edit schedule doesn't allow it (again). Maybe next year.... :-\
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on September 03, 2015, 08:47:22 PM
I'm already getting excited.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on September 04, 2015, 12:08:18 PM
Really great to see this thread as I'm doing Nanawrimo this year (I usually say 'planning to'!). Totally inspired by everyone that completes it. Sincerely hope I'll be one of them, but must admit to feeling slightly fearful! Really intrigued by those who don't plan at all and still make the target. I'm not a natural planner so that appeals to me. Have any of you managed to get your novel published?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Inseriousity. on September 05, 2015, 01:48:21 PM
Yes I'm ready to give it another go. I think I've still got last year's in my sig. If I do there's proof that I didn't do too well but I was spending all day writing job applications so I didn't fancy writing my novel after that. I have a job this time so I'll ironically have a bit more time to just write. Fingers crossed it goes slightly better haha.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on September 06, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Yes I'm ready to give it another go. I think I've still got last year's in my sig. If I do there's proof that I didn't do too well but I was spending all day writing job applications so I didn't fancy writing my novel after that. I have a job this time so I'll ironically have a bit more time to just write. Fingers crossed it goes slightly better haha.

You got it this year.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on September 10, 2015, 06:43:33 PM
OLIVER'S FIRST TIP

Pick a soundtrack.

When times are tough, nothing can motivate you better than a great song. This is something you can do way in advance and helps you emotionally invest in doing Nanowrimo.

I've found mine already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyUBuCfg5vA

I'll never get tired of that.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on September 17, 2015, 07:23:29 PM
Another tip and something you can do in September is EDIT SOMETHING.

Get all that editing out of your system before the big kickoff so you can concentrate on the writing.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on September 17, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
Don't forget, it's also permissible to create your story outline and do some back ground work on your character.

Check out the NaNo site for more info on getting ready for some serious time writing.

I also agree with Thatollie, if you are the type that has trouble resisting the urge to edit, get it out of your system early.  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Laura H on September 18, 2015, 07:01:09 AM
Good idea to focus on editing something now. I need to do that anyway  :-\

And I have my story idea. It came to me in a dream the other night  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: heidi52 on September 18, 2015, 10:09:26 AM

And I have my story idea. It came to me in a dream the other night  ;D

Those are always the best. Good luck with it.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Laura H on October 08, 2015, 04:08:16 PM
Yup, I'm decided. I'm in it this year.

Who else?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: DistantSun on October 08, 2015, 06:03:00 PM
I'll be on the spectator cheer squad this year.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 08, 2015, 06:10:36 PM
I doubt if I'm in this year.  But cheering duties will be performed.

I may set November aside to edit something I produced in a previous year.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on October 09, 2015, 12:03:52 PM
I've just been deep inside NaNo's site and finally committed myself, both in mind and body, to giving this years another serious go.

Should anyone wish to add me to your Buddy list, my name there is Alice F.


What is your listed name?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 09, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
I'm there as thatollie because I'm not allowed to change names there. That's kind of annoying because I love changing my username.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on October 09, 2015, 09:21:09 PM
I'm there as thatollie because I'm not allowed to change names there. That's kind of annoying because I love changing my username.

Okay, I still have you on my buddy list then.

Never tried to change my name there. Thought about it today, but never got around to giving it a try.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 11, 2015, 05:50:24 PM
I'm in quite the conundrum here. How is one supposed to survive an attack by a ninja werewolf?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 11, 2015, 06:40:41 PM
Interesting problem.

There are two options when fighting off any attack.  One is to counter it with superior force/intelligence.

The other is misdirection, tricking the attacker into attacking someone else.   if you have two attackers the smart trick is to fool them into fighting each other.

There is a third option.  Blind luck.  But a novelist can't get away with this too often.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Laura H on October 11, 2015, 07:00:02 PM
Dang, I just found out that I have to travel November 5th through the 8th and won't be able to write a lick. I'll have to figure how to plan around that.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 11, 2015, 08:03:48 PM
Interesting problem.

There are two options when fighting off any attack.  One is to counter it with superior force/intelligence.

The other is misdirection, tricking the attacker into attacking someone else.   if you have two attackers the smart trick is to fool them into fighting each other.

There is a third option.  Blind luck.  But a novelist can't get away with this too often.

I haven't decided who among my main cast I'm going to unleash it upon yet, but whoever gets it is in for a fight.

Dang, I just found out that I have to travel November 5th through the 8th and won't be able to write a lick. I'll have to figure how to plan around that.

3 days is 5,000 words, try to get as much ahead before you go as you can and then parse the rest out throughout the month.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 12, 2015, 11:07:02 AM
I'd love to join, but since it's a really huge task I don't feel like undertaking it in English. I understand that you can write in any language : can anyone confirm this? Thanks
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MarcusB on October 12, 2015, 11:19:31 AM
I tried this a couple years back.  Didn't quite get through the whole thing, but didn't do so bad, I suppose.  May be time to try again...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread - NaNo
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on October 12, 2015, 11:53:04 AM
I'd love to join, but since it's a really huge task I don't feel like undertaking it in English. I understand that you can write in any language : can anyone confirm this? Thanks

Catherine, no one will be reading your work on NaNo, they only use a word counter to post your results. So you can write in the language of your choice.

I hadn't thought of this before, but it makes sense because there are people who join in from all over.  8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread - NaNo
Post by: Catherine F on October 12, 2015, 12:30:01 PM
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So you can write in the language of your choice.

Thank you Alice, you confirm what I thought. So let's go! I'll join :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread - NaNo
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on October 12, 2015, 12:34:10 PM
Thank you Alice, you confirm what I thought. So let's go! I'll join :D

Good for you Catherine.  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread - NaNo
Post by: Catherine F on October 12, 2015, 06:01:36 PM
I did it  ;D

 
I've just been deep inside NaNo's site and finally committed myself, both in mind and body, to giving this years another serious go.

Should anyone wish to add me to your Buddy list, my name there is Alice F.


What is your listed name?
I'm there as Catherine F.

A big thank you to Gyppo, whose 4 years old advice found here http://mywriterscircle.com/index.php?topic=39739.0
comes in very handy :


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Adjust the brightness - and possibly colour - of your computer screen as needed, otherwise your eyeballs will feel like a pair of fried eggs by the end of the first week,
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http://stereopsis.com/flux/

I've just tried it and it really makes reading the screen more comfortable. 8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread - NaNo
Post by: Gyppo on October 12, 2015, 06:32:42 PM
Catherine.  Glad the advice is still useful.

Every little advantage helps when you're writing full-time.

I hope you'll find some of the other advice helpful as well.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 12, 2015, 07:27:55 PM
I'd love to join, but since it's a really huge task I don't feel like undertaking it in English. I understand that you can write in any language : can anyone confirm this? Thanks

While you can write in any language, I would say that you should write in the one you intend to use in your "writing life". Nanowrimo is a great learning experience.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread - NaNo
Post by: Catherine F on October 13, 2015, 02:03:56 AM
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I hope you'll find some of the other advice helpful as well.

Gyppo
Oh yes Gyppo, all useful  :)

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I would say that you should write in the one you intend to use in your "writing life"
Idiot Savant, so far I have an english-only experience in writing, but I am non native which makes it difficult for me in the long run. But I must admit I find it uneasy/artificial to write in french.  ???
It will be an experiment.

Have a nice day, Catherine
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 14, 2015, 08:12:39 PM
Something I would recommend for everyone to do soon is go on the nanowrimo site and create your novel. You get a fancy word count bar for it.

Once you're signed in, hover over "MY NANOWRIMO" in the side bar and click on "MY NOVELS". Then input all your current info on the novel into the fields. You can declare your title, genre, upload a front cover and write a synopsis (if you want to do any of those things).

This is an important step; once it's done then you are officially in the game for real.

and don't forget to click save at the bottom of the page.

While you're there, you can also add me to your buddy list.
http://nanowrimo.org/participants/thatollie
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 15, 2015, 02:37:10 AM
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I would recommend for everyone to do soon is go on the nanowrimo site and create your novel.
IS thanks for the advice (I suppose the details (title, synopsis, cover) can be filled up later?)
I thought I had to wait till the 1/11 to do this.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on October 15, 2015, 03:02:32 AM
Something I would recommend for everyone to do soon is go on the nanowrimo site and create your novel. You get a fancy word count bar for it.

Once you're signed in, hover over "MY NANOWRIMO" in the side bar and click on "MY NOVELS". Then input all your current info on the novel into the fields. You can declare your title, genre, upload a front cover and write a synopsis (if you want to do any of those things).

This is an important step; once it's done then you are officially in the game for real.

and don't forget to click save at the bottom of the page.

While you're there, you can also add me to your buddy list.
http://nanowrimo.org/participants/thatollie

Thanks, Idiot Savant, v useful info. 😀
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on October 15, 2015, 06:04:18 AM
I'm going to give it a go as well, I think. I find deadlines quite useful in applying bottom to seat and actually typing…good luck to everyone!

(Catherine, I'm fascinated by the fact that English is your second (?) language, but you find it harder to write in French. Have you always written in English, or is there something in writing in a different language which gives a sort of freedom perhaps? Can it help in experimentation or creativity? I have no idea, but I find it very interesting! Bonne chance with Nano! :) )
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 15, 2015, 07:53:05 AM

(Catherine, I'm fascinated by the fact that English is your second (?) language, but you find it harder to write in French. Have you always written in English, or is there something in writing in a different language which gives a sort of freedom perhaps? Can it help in experimentation or creativity? I have no idea, but I find it very interesting! Bonne chance with Nano! :) )

I don't "sound" right in French. Maybe neither do I in English, but at least I'm not as aware of it since I don't master English as I do French  :)
It is a matter of "voice" and of self-consciousness I reckon. Technically it is much easier for me to write in French, I "go" faster and longer, which is why I'll do Nanowrimo in French...
Good luck!

PS: RR, it is why translations always give a different feeling than original language: some authors just cannot be translated (in a literary sense, not plot-wise)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 15, 2015, 10:47:23 AM
I am now going to be in my own book. This is terrifying because a lot of the other characters are really scary. And I've dragged another of the fair MWC folk in with me.

I hope it won't go bad.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 20, 2015, 03:49:25 PM
My book now has a plot. I don't know how this happened.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 20, 2015, 04:00:58 PM
Real people and a plot?  Scary stuff.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 20, 2015, 04:48:00 PM
Frogg and I were supposed to go in there to derail any chance of there being a plot and instead we caused one to come into being.

This is probably her fault.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 20, 2015, 07:24:55 PM
Definitely.  The girl is a catalyst, which is not a feline with two shorter legs on one side.  You only have to think about some of her inadvertent adventures to see this.

Will she turn up now to defend herself?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 20, 2015, 07:32:34 PM
Gosh, I hope so.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Laura H on October 22, 2015, 07:01:42 PM
Sounds intriguing, Thatollie.

I'm questionable to participate now. Some real life stuff has my November schedule up the air. At the very least, I'll be writing on the sidelines without officially signing up  :-\
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: heidi52 on October 24, 2015, 01:08:42 PM
You know what's a great way to get ready for National Novel Writing Month?

http://mywriterscircle.com/index.php?topic=58547.0
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 24, 2015, 01:33:51 PM
You know what's a great way to get ready for National Novel Writing Month?

http://mywriterscircle.com/index.php?topic=58547.0

Yessss! Truly true...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 24, 2015, 03:18:12 PM
Sounds intriguing, Thatollie.

I'm questionable to participate now. Some real life stuff has my November schedule up the air. At the very least, I'll be writing on the sidelines without officially signing up  :-\

My November schedule is going to be a bit hectic too, but that's no reason to not enter.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: heidi52 on October 24, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
My November schedule is going to be a bit hectic too, but that's no reason to not enter.

Exactly, gets the pistons primed, you know?  ;D

And 500 words is 1/100th of Nano goal,  just 1%!  Less than you need to write every day in November.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 24, 2015, 04:06:18 PM
Exactly, gets the pistons primed, you know?  ;D

And 500 words is 1/100th of Nano goal,  just 1%!  Less than you need to write every day in November.

Only if you enter nanowrimo.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: heidi52 on October 24, 2015, 04:28:14 PM
Only if you enter nanowrimo.

It's a deal.  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on October 26, 2015, 08:50:09 AM
Hi everyone. I am also going to participate in NaNoWriMo, and hopefully fail spectacularly!
Why so excited about it? Because this is the first year I actually sat down to participate. I have three pages of a novel waiting to be written since last year and by RandomGods, it will be written til the end!

Also, this showed up in my Twitter feed and it is colourful. A helping hand for everyone who needs that extra little motivation to ring up that word count, a word calendar. http://davidseah.com/node/nanowrimo-word-calendar/ (http://davidseah.com/node/nanowrimo-word-calendar/)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 26, 2015, 07:38:32 PM
Hi everyone. I am also going to participate in NaNoWriMo, and hopefully fail spectacularly!
Why so excited about it? Because this is the first year I actually sat down to participate. I have three pages of a novel waiting to be written since last year and by RandomGods, it will be written til the end!

Also, this showed up in my Twitter feed and it is colourful. A helping hand for everyone who needs that extra little motivation to ring up that word count, a word calendar. http://davidseah.com/node/nanowrimo-word-calendar/ (http://davidseah.com/node/nanowrimo-word-calendar/)

If you need some advice on how to fail spectacularly, I'm probably the guy you need to ask.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 26, 2015, 09:10:44 PM
So close, yet so far.

Four more days to wait.

'xcited!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on October 27, 2015, 05:11:23 AM
Give me advice, oh wise one! How does one go from mere failure (which is admirable, because to fail is to try) to spectacular failure (which is awe-worthy, because.)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 28, 2015, 06:24:00 PM
Give me advice, oh wise one! How does one go from mere failure (which is admirable, because to fail is to try) to spectacular failure (which is awe-worthy, because.)

Well, to make a truly epic fail you have to get as close to success as possible. Try building up an early lead to make your failure more dramatic.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 28, 2015, 07:59:23 PM
A really classic failure would be to write 5000 words a day for nine consecutive days, decide you had plenty of time left to finish, and then get your days mixed up and suddenly realise it's December and you've missed the boat.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Plain Helvetica on October 28, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
A really classic failure would be to write 5000 words a day for nine consecutive days, decide you had plenty of time left to finish, and then get your days mixed up and suddenly realise it's December and you've missed the boat.

The hubris! It's the classic Dick Dastardly fail.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 29, 2015, 11:36:34 AM
I don't want to be no failure! Neither classic nor epic... :)

 I sure don't know how I will get along. But there is already something very positive: my motivation to write a story from start to end in 50 000 words (or more, or less), be it in one month or more.

For the first time I have a structured story in mind: I've been working on my characters (living with them) for days: I have their chronology, their back stories, the relations between them. I have conflicts. I have main plot and under-plots. I have places. And I can't wait to start writing (although the wait helps mature the project).

This challenge will be my opportunity to write a rough/first draft (you know the "behind the locked door" one).  I see it as a begining: from there (end of november) I'll start writing properly. Hopefully ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on October 29, 2015, 12:30:46 PM
I like your attitude and determination Catherine.  :D

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 29, 2015, 01:19:46 PM
A good approach and an excellent attitude, Catherine.  Whatever your final word count you will learn a lot, both about writing and about yourself as a writer.  Wishing you well.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on October 29, 2015, 01:25:22 PM
Great, Catherine, with such determination you're sure to succeed :) I'll be cheering you on!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 29, 2015, 01:30:28 PM
eheheh! Thank you    8)

(I hope I won't be all deflated by the fifth of November like the Gunpowder Plot :D)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 29, 2015, 01:40:27 PM
The Gunpowder plot failed because of ineptitude and because the plotters were cheapskates.  They used damp 'past its use-by date' gunpowder, which probably wouldn't have done the job even if they had managed to set it off.

Effectively a gaping 'plot hole' instead of a gaping hole on the London skyline.

I get a distinct feeling that even if they'd had the advantage of modern explosives they would have still managed to screw up mightily ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on October 29, 2015, 02:00:09 PM
That sounds like a great start Catherine, it's very exciting! I shall be taking inspiration from your example (and thanking the school term planner that half term was this week and not next…!)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on October 29, 2015, 02:22:19 PM
Good luck, Catherine! (& everyone else!). I'm doing it too but not quite as organised! Very impressed with your planning.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 29, 2015, 02:26:42 PM
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(and thanking the school term planner that half term was this week and not next…!)
Same here Kate: two weeks even ;) Which is why... ;D (I had plenty of time for the planning)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 29, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
Good luck, Catherine! (& everyone else!). I'm doing it too but not quite as organised! Very impressed with your planning.
What username do you use there MaryRuth?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on October 29, 2015, 03:52:18 PM
You've used the time better than me Catherine! My kids have demanded some obscure and ill-defined thing called 'entertainment' all this week, and I'm pretty sure it's impossible to write and find the place in the Lego instructions where it all went wrong at the same time  ;D

But - I am quite liberated at the thought of just writing without worrying about whether it's any good (because there won't be time) and just trying to finish a story of that length.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 29, 2015, 04:02:44 PM
Don't forget to enjoy it.  It gives you an enormous psychological advantage ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on October 29, 2015, 04:09:54 PM
Sounds like a plan!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 29, 2015, 04:12:08 PM
You've used the time better than me Catherine! My kids have demanded some obscure and ill-defined thing called 'entertainment' all this week, and I'm pretty sure it's impossible to write and find the place in the Lego instructions where it all went wrong at the same time  ;D

But - I am quite liberated at the thought of just writing without worrying about whether it's any good (because there won't be time) and just trying to finish a story of that length.

You are much better than I was when my kids were small : I didn't write a single line in nineteen years, busy with playmobils and play-doh  :D then with math and physics mystery homeworks  ??? (much worse and more time-consuming than playmobiling   ;))
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on October 30, 2015, 04:07:53 AM
What username do you use there MaryRuth?


Pisceanmoon, Catherine. What's yours?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on October 30, 2015, 04:10:42 AM
You've used the time better than me Catherine! My kids have demanded some obscure and ill-defined thing called 'entertainment' all this week, and I'm pretty sure it's impossible to write and find the place in the Lego instructions where it all went wrong at the same time  ;D

But - I am quite liberated at the thought of just writing without worrying about whether it's any good (because there won't be time) and just trying to finish a story of that length.

I don't have children, (only a kitten!) so really I have no excuse! I have the same thoughts as you, RR, just want to finish a story of that length as I believe (deep down) I can do it but want to prove it to myself..
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 30, 2015, 05:44:28 AM
I don't have children, (only a kitten!) so really I have no excuse! I have the same thoughts as you, RR, just want to finish a story of that length as I believe (deep down) I can do it but want to prove it to myself..
Same here! Let's prove ourselves we can do it. Yes we can ;)
( my user name is Catherine F)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on October 31, 2015, 10:07:29 AM
Yes, mine is…RamblingR. Good luck!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 31, 2015, 11:13:33 AM
In about nine hours, (UK Time), this year's Nano writers will be off to a flying start.

I'm not in this year, just too many other family things demanding my attention this year, but...

I always found it worthwhile making that start just after midnight.  It gives you a psychological advantage.  Sometimes it was just a few words, and sometimes a few thousand.  But once you've made the start you're part way there.

Just a few hundred words, then stop whilst you're ahead.  Then go to sleep.

Not only will you wake up 'rearing to go' you'll have a headstart.  And,more than likely, your subconscious mind will have been working on the idea while you were sleeping.  Plus, it's still only the 1st of November.

There's nothing quite like waking up knowing exactly where you're going.

Best wishes and flowing words to you all.

Gyppo

 

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Laura H on October 31, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Good luck, Writers. Wish I could join you this year.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 31, 2015, 02:27:10 PM
Don't forget to enjoy it.  It gives you an enormous psychological advantage ;-)

Gyppo

Damn right.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 31, 2015, 02:34:39 PM
Rhâââââââ (French groan) can't wait ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 31, 2015, 02:36:35 PM
Five more hours.

It's getting to the exciting bit.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on October 31, 2015, 02:40:04 PM
Feeling like a horse held back on Royal Ascott Race day (in the starting gate)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on October 31, 2015, 03:00:11 PM
Good luck!   :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 31, 2015, 04:12:22 PM
They've kicked off from Dubai to Kiritimati, so I'll post a song to get everyone pumped up.

How can anyone resist "TEST YOUR MIGHT"?

Techno Syndrome - The Immortals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTWdm6RrpVE
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 31, 2015, 05:44:08 PM
In the words (almost) of Rudyard Kipling...

If you wake at midnight,
and hear a horse's feet,
Don't go drawing back the blind,
or looking in the street,
just turn on your processor
or pick up your inky pen,
and start that bloody novel
cos it's Nano Time again.

Gyppo

=====

And for a fairly atmospheric reading of the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELNBp6DBh8

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 31, 2015, 08:13:05 PM
I have not started writing yet, I have a hot mince pie that desperately requires my attention.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on October 31, 2015, 08:48:38 PM
I now have words. 140 of them, to be precise. I'm going to go to bed now because today is my last day at work and I would like to actually be awake while I'm there.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on October 31, 2015, 09:03:42 PM
Good move, Ollie.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 01, 2015, 12:11:13 AM
I haven't started writing yet for two reasons.

A. It is still 57 minutes to midnight my time.

B. In my part of the world it will be time to turn our clocks back one hour. So if I stay up to change the time, I would see midnight come and go twice.

Decided I would compromise and go to bed now. Chances are good that I'll be awake again in two or three hours anyway. If so, maybe a can manage a little bit of sleep first.

If I should happen to sleep through the night it still shouldn't be a big problem. I'll have several hours to myself and the laptop  tomorrow anyway. Well, if you don't count the cat and dog that is.  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 01, 2015, 04:00:38 AM
Midnight came and I wrote 219 words before going to bed  :) And when I got up I made a false move and find myself partly blocked through a lumbago :'(
Which is not required when sitting in front of a computer >:(
Good luk to everyone!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 01, 2015, 07:34:20 AM
Woohoo, November 1st! I'm excited like a child on Christmas morning :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 01, 2015, 10:39:01 AM
And they're off... !:D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 01, 2015, 10:59:42 AM
I woke about our hour after our time change and wrote 682 words that I fear will be trashed. Should have slept longer.  :(
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 01, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
Well, I should really get back at it.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 01, 2015, 03:09:42 PM
I now have a whole page. Most of it is a certain author avatar being self aggrandizingly brilliant.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 01, 2015, 03:12:46 PM
1760 words :) I am a happy bunny and I can go sleep before going back to work after my hols :)

I hope everyone had a wonderful day :)
I am feeling slightly manic after an infusion of coffee-fuelled wordsprint, don't mind me...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 01, 2015, 03:47:40 PM
You're doing great . . . so far.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 01, 2015, 04:04:29 PM
Thank you :) I expect a rapid decrease in motivation and productivity come Monday :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 01, 2015, 04:05:23 PM
That's why you should totally go for that 2K before logging off.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 01, 2015, 05:10:29 PM
Woohoo! I managed to write 619 words today! I know it's far from what it should be and I just read what I wrote and it's worthless but I'm finally writing again!  ;D

I signed up as Cecilia C, mind if I look up all of you in there?

Happy writings to you all!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 01, 2015, 05:16:14 PM
Woohoo! I managed to write 619 words today! I know it's far from what it should be and I just read what I wrote and it's worthless but I'm finally writing again!  ;D

I signed up as Cecilia C, mind if I look up all of you in there?

Happy writings to you all!

I'll repost the link to my participants (hahaha, pants) page.
http://nanowrimo.org/participants/thatollie
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 01, 2015, 05:19:17 PM
Thanks buddy!  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 01, 2015, 05:34:58 PM
You're welcome, buddy.

I now have over a thousand words.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 01, 2015, 07:03:27 PM
just over 1,500 for me. me sleeps now now.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 01, 2015, 10:53:15 PM
Just for the record Ollie, despite the fact I haven't picked a word count and that I started a whole new story . . . I now have a word count of, 1,151.

I think I'll have better luck with this story and some of the devious character that live in it. They've already started plotting and scheming to get their hands on a bundle of money.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 02, 2015, 05:53:33 AM
Just for the record Ollie, despite the fact I haven't picked a word count and that I started a whole new story . . . I now have a word count of, 1,151.

I think I'll have better luck with this story and some of the devious character that live in it. They've already started plotting and scheming to get their hands on a bundle of money.

Awesome.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 02, 2015, 06:00:10 AM
Woohoo! I managed to write 619 words today! I know it's far from what it should be and I just read what I wrote and it's worthless but I'm finally writing again!  ;D

Good to see you writing. I have words… but they are not good ones. Or at least they are not in the right order. Am trying hard to resist the temptation to edit it all now rather than press on. Keep going!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 02, 2015, 06:19:55 AM
Good to see you writing. I have words… but they are not good ones. Or at least they are not in the right order. Am trying hard to resist the temptation to edit it all now rather than press on. Keep going!

The words matter, not if they're good or not. A start is a start!  :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 02, 2015, 06:27:12 AM
My writing is so stop start at the moment. I'll charge in and write maybe 100 words and then something breaks my concentration. But, some of it is entertaining. I'll get to those thousand word writing sprees eventually.

Also, here's a song for the second day. It's a little more mellow than the one I posted yesterday.

Rashisa - Super Beaver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM8y4NLBWkw
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 02, 2015, 07:02:47 AM
Good to see you writing. I have words… but they are not good ones. Or at least they are not in the right order. Am trying hard to resist the temptation to edit it all now rather than press on. Keep going!

Bravo girls! I'm much like you Kate: I hate writing at this speed, not editing, having this raw stuff. I'm not sure it's a good way to write. My story doesn't sound right, it doesn't work... I'll keep going though (see how it goes)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 02, 2015, 07:23:56 AM
I have to go now. I'll be back later.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 02, 2015, 09:39:06 AM
Bravo girls! I'm much like you Kate: I hate writing at this speed, not editing, having this raw stuff. I'm not sure it's a good way to write. My story doesn't sound right, it doesn't work... I'll keep going though (see how it goes)

Making yourself continue to move forward instead of checking/correcting what you have already written was one of the hardest things to get use to doing for me the first time I did NaNo.

But I found it became a little easier the more I kept working at it. It also helped to remind myself that I had as much time as I wanted to edit after Nov. 30th.  ;)

Keep looking ahead and you'll feel better about it as you see those words building higher and higher.  8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 02, 2015, 11:14:44 AM
Good advice, thanks Alice, (although it is hard to resist the editing… like an itch that wants scratching!)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 02, 2015, 11:32:10 AM
Quote
Keep looking ahead and you'll feel better about it as you see those words building higher and higher.  Cool
Thank you Alice for your good advice :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 02, 2015, 11:59:45 AM
One of the best pieces of advice you can get is to start writing as early in the day as possible.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 02, 2015, 12:12:12 PM
I'm glad you found it useful Rose and Cathrine, hope it works for you.

Ollie, I'm more of a night person, so I often find I manage some of my best writing when most of my part of the world is sleeping, or at least quieter. I dare say we each have our own internal clock that works best for us. Glad you found mornings work best for you.  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 02, 2015, 12:13:16 PM
It doesn't matter when you do your best work. Get some done early and then get even more done later.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 02, 2015, 01:07:15 PM
It doesn't matter when you do your best work. Get some done early and then get even more done later.

I agree 100%.   8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 02, 2015, 01:08:12 PM
One of the best pieces of advice you can get is to start writing as early in the day as possible.

 :D :D :D :D :D got to work all through the day man  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 02, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
:D :D :D :D :D got to work all through the day man  :D :D :D :D :D

So, get back to work.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 02, 2015, 01:53:42 PM
You guys inspired me so much, I wrote a short story today. I hardly ever write them, but wanted to get a bit of that blazing word count feeling.  :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 02, 2015, 02:04:08 PM
AnnMarie, so how did it feel when you finished?  I ask because from time to time I try my hand with shorts. The hardest thing for me is editing them down to a reasonable word count.

Seems I never know when to stop talking or writing. I blame it on being in the middle of a bunch of siblings and not being able (very often) to get a word in edge wise.  :o
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 02, 2015, 02:37:58 PM
well done Annmarie! Glad it felt good :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 02, 2015, 02:42:23 PM
Thanks, Rose!

Alice, it's funny you say that. I have the same problem. But this time I sat down and told myself the story will be finished in one sitting, and it was! Felt good to finish. Editing my novel doesn't give me quite the same feeling.  :)

Anyway, keep it up, guys. Only 28 days to go! ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 02, 2015, 02:47:33 PM
Only 28 days to go! ;)
;D ??? ;D ??? <--- these are my alternating facial expressions when I think of that  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 02, 2015, 02:55:23 PM
Mine would be  :o

 :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 02, 2015, 03:11:23 PM
;D ??? ;D ??? <--- these are my alternating facial expressions when I think of that  ;D

Oh but  you should  8) : you did such a great job today! (while us teachers  looked after YOUR kids instead of writing   :P)
 ;D
I must go: 1300 words left to find tonight...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 02, 2015, 03:28:56 PM
 8) tis true, tis true, I have no idea how this works if you have to go to work (especially if you teach - it's not like you can hide behind a screen and type away in secret!)

Although, I'm not even on target word count, and I need to be ahead to balance out the days when my three year old is not at pre-school... Eek.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 02, 2015, 04:34:02 PM
I give up for today, exhausted... ::)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 02, 2015, 05:33:36 PM
Wow buddies, you've made amazing progress! Can't wait to read all that  ;D

Only wrote 100 today  :-\ But my husband is going to Italy for a few days so I'm expecting to have some solid hours of writing after the kids are sleeping. Hopefully I won't be too exhausted from work and I can make up for the less productive days.

Boa sorte!*
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 02, 2015, 05:43:45 PM
Always try to remember to stop at a point where you know what's coming next.  That way the first few words the next day will be easier.  But if you've written yourself to a standstill sometimes the creativity won't be there the next day.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 02, 2015, 05:57:36 PM
Gyppo, that's actually one of the best tips I've had! I do tend to stop when I'm not sure what will come next and it doesn't get easier the next day. Won't forget, thanks!   ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 02, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
You're welcome.  A lot of NANO is playing with your own mind as well as those of your characters ;-)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 02, 2015, 06:22:36 PM
After I went to bed last night I had parts of my story running through my head. That's fine, I like when that happens. The problem was that some of the information should have been included in the part I had already written. I blame that on the characters taking charge and trying to take over.

So the first writing I did today was to draw a line below the spot I stopped last night, write the stuff that needs to come earlier. Then another line to keep it separated from the the writing that follows.

Not my ideal was to do things. But better that editing at this point and I have the info. sitting there waiting to be worked in after Nov. is gone.  ;)

Just another way to trick myself and keep from editing too early.   
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 07:31:17 AM
I now have an excerpt up on my account.

http://nanowrimo.org/participants/thatollie/novels/misty-842972
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 03, 2015, 07:37:53 AM
;-)

Based on this small excerpt, it's definitely an 'Ollie'.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 08:12:13 AM
;-)

Based on this small excerpt, it's definitely an 'Ollie'.

There are small sections in that first chapter that are very me. This one in particular.

She pouted and turned towards Joe. “Fine, I’ll tell him. Mr Smarty Pants here believes that the only person who could commit a string of murders that we can’t solve is himself with split personality disorder.”

This seemed to make the boy grumpy, Joe enjoyed that. The theory itself was the most insane thing he’d ever heard. “Your partner is here now. Can we get down to business?”

Sprocket stood up and cleared the pillow fort onto the floor with one wave of his arm. “She’s my junior partner, and yes we can.”

“I’ve been demoted again,” cried Frogg.

“This is getting ridiculous. I am a client and you, Sprocket at least, know that my time is precious. You could do me the decency of concentrating on the reason I’m here instead of this poor comedy routine.”

“What a scary guy,” said Frogg.

“Everyone’s time is precious but you seem to spend yours poorly,” said Sprocket.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 03, 2015, 08:23:28 AM
“Everyone’s time is precious but you seem to spend yours poorly,” said Sprocket.

Certainly sounds like the you we have come to know from your postings ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 08:29:12 AM
the original line was "We're hilarious," but I changed it because the other thing was more words.

Also, I'm spending my plot incredibly quickly. I may need more soon.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 03, 2015, 08:34:57 AM
Take a look around the graveyard, there's plenty of plots there ;-)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 08:36:56 AM
You've just reminded me of another bit. Lion King reference FTW.

His dingy little lab was on an industrial estate just outside the city, right near the spaceship junkyard known for some reason as The Elephant’s Graveyard.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 03, 2015, 08:41:18 AM
[Smiling again.]
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 10:09:10 AM
I'm really enjoying letting these characters take over and go crazy. Sprocket is enjoying himself as well, perhaps too much.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 03, 2015, 01:36:51 PM
Waouh! Really hard... My opening is nothing to go from, so I moved back a long time ago in my story, and I work from there. I write scenes disconnected in times and places, I find it more lively to write (at this point I wouldn't dare to let anyone read). I'll go like this for a while and see what happens. I see it as a base to start from later (when nano is over); I still hope to go from A to Z though...
Cheers all :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 03, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
Catherine.  Although my normal tendency is to write in a linear A - Z fashion I completed one NANO by jumping around like a grasshopper on Speed.  I knew how it was going to end, but each time I lost impetus I went to a different scene.  Bounding between a small motorcycle repair/restoration workshop on the south coast of England and the Utah Salt Flats, and a few other places as well.

A few times I was waiting for research replies from a source in America, so, as Alice said recently, I drew a line and pressed on with another part which was clear in my mind.

I wrote in a series of scenes, and worried about chapters later.

It was a wild 25 days.  As Ollie said earlier, the characters took over.

A thought about that last sentence.  Try not to introduce a new character every time your main ones come up against a major problem.  It's a very seductive option, having 'a passing stranger' turn up to move things forwards, and sometimes it's justified, but you can soon end up with a cast of hundreds and your main characters get lost in the crowd.

If you're used to a logical thought process the grasshopper leaps can feel so wrong at first, but it keeps things moving.  You can always lose any bits you really hate when it comes to editing in January, or later.  (Don't edit in December, it's far to close to the act of creation.  You need a clear head to edit what is truly there on the pages rather than what your - by then - fried brain remembers writing.

It's not just about word count - a claim many make when complaining about the NANO frenzy, but my counter to this is that even a literary genius can't edit a blank sheet ;-)

With a nod to your personal circumstances...  When you're working full time as well you have to be a bit ruthless about getting the most out of your writing time.  Free your subconscious and let it romp around all over that plot you drew up.  Some of the detours you take will be far more creative than they seem at the time, purely because they avoided the dead hand of logic.

Press on.

Gyppo 
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 03, 2015, 02:44:40 PM
I've been scene-jumping as well. That's great advice, Gyppo, and very reassuring - thanks!
Good luck Catherine - hope you're not feeling too fried :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 03, 2015, 02:50:53 PM
Gyppo, your encouragements and advice are so precious! I'm very lucky in the sense that when I sit down to write I do write! So the small amount of time I have is quite productive.
I agree with you about the MCs: in fact I keep to them, only at different periods of their lives. I deal with key moments, kind of first day to the rest of their lives... What they have done in the past is what they pay for now, and they pay for it through the life they lead (it's more or less something said by James Baldwin). Anyway, I start enjoying it, at least I like the moment I'm working on today. I must remember to keep organized and file my bits & pieces in a way I'll find them easily...
Keep up with your help, it's welcome!
Catherine
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 03, 2015, 03:18:49 PM
Gyppo, your encouragements and advice are so precious! I'm very lucky in the sense that when I sit down to write I do write! So the small amount of time I have is quite productive.
I agree with you about the MCs: in fact I keep to them, only at different periods of their lives. I deal with key moments, kind of first day to the rest of their lives... What they have done in the past is what they pay for now, and they pay for it through the life they lead (it's more or less something said by James Baldwin). Anyway, I start enjoying it, at least I like the moment I'm working on today. I must remember to keep organized and file my bits & pieces in a way I'll find them easily...
Keep up with your help, it's welcome!
Catherine

I feel the same, Catherine. I do believe it's kind of psychological as I've never written anything longer than 3000 words before so I feel a little overwhelmed. I've beaten that now as I'm on 4000 words (yay!) but although I can't say it's great writing, I don't think that's the point  and I can already feel that I'm slowly getting into the story. I'm kind of comparing it to running a marathon as I used to do them in the past and I remember feeling exactly the same way when I went from a 10 k to the full distance. I think we need to motivate each other through this! Good luck. Mary  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 03, 2015, 03:39:49 PM
It is a marathon, so rest, pace yourself and keep having fun!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 03, 2015, 04:31:56 PM
I feel the same, Catherine. I do believe it's kind of psychological as I've never written anything longer than 3000 words before so I feel a little overwhelmed. I've beaten that now as I'm on 4000 words (yay!) but although I can't say it's great writing, I don't think that's the point  and I can already feel that I'm slowly getting into the story. I'm kind of comparing it to running a marathon as I used to do them in the past and I remember feeling exactly the same way when I went from a 10 k to the full distance. I think we need to motivate each other through this! Good luck. Mary  :)

I'm also running long distance here, I also feel overwhelmed, but when the writing flows smoothly, at times, it is so exhilarating! And I'm sure it will help us discover aspects of our writing personality we might not explore otherwise, or not as soon. And it's nice to come around this thread regularly  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 03, 2015, 04:51:49 PM
I'm very lucky in the sense that when I sit down to write I do write! So the small amount of time I have is quite productive.

I must remember to keep organized and file my bits & pieces in a way I'll find them easily...

1)  Excellent.  Staring at the wall gets nothing done.

2)  I took the simple option and just numbered each scene, from 1 - 126 if I recall correctly.  With a few words at the start of each to tell me what was in each.  I also opened another document to maintain a rough overview, which helped enormously when I later tackled the mammoth cut and paste to unite all those little files.

I believe some people who are more at home with them use spreadsheets, etc.  Just find something which feels right to you and stick with it.

And I backed up obsessively.

Never save it all as one massive document.  The risk of catastrophic loss is too great.  Especially when you get tired.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 05:37:36 PM
Backing up obsessively is the only way to survive.

Also, Chapter One1 is done at 3,233 words. I'm hoping to get some fresh impetus from the perspective change.

1: Chapter One is not really a chapter so much as a group of scenes mildly connected for no reason. It even has a note in it that says that the last scene is set before all the others.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 07:12:06 PM
Also, anyone who tells you to take a break is on your side.

A couple of hours out to watch 80s' Giant Robot anime has really helped to re-invigorate me.

But, I like Giant Robots so you may have to pick something more suited to your own taste. Unless Giant Robots are the secret to excellent creativity (and I wouldn't put it past them).
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 03, 2015, 07:21:16 PM
It's also a good idea when you've been writing for 30 minutes or more to take a break to just get up and move around a little. And if you're anything like me, it helps to let your arms and shoulders relax, then roll your head around in one direction a few turns - then do the same thing in  the opposite direction. Really helps those neck and shoulder muscles that can bunch up when you are concentrating on the words on your screen.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 07:28:15 PM
It's also a good idea when you've been writing for 30 minutes or more to take a break to just get up and move around a little. And if you're anything like me, it helps to let your arms and shoulders relax, then roll your head around in one direction a few turns - then do the same thing in  the opposite direction. Really helps those neck and shoulder muscles that can bunch up when you are concentrating on the words on your screen.

Dancing like a crazy person is the best way to rid yourself of overwriting cramps.

Which reminds me, I haven't posted a song for like 36 hours. This is the one that got me through a spell of 1,000 words in an hour tonight. It's crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGXVPI1DqgM
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 03, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
Yes.  It's physical as well as mental.  Have no doubts about that.

Have plenty of water to hand, and remember to drink it.  A dehydrated brain doesn't work as well, and a full bladder will ensure you move away from the computer occasionally.  Far more effective than setting an alarm and then ignoring it because the words are flowing.  You can still think whilst you're peeing ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 07:35:40 PM
I've heard that water is good for you.

Seeing as I survive almost exclusively on tea, I haven't had the chance to try it for myself.

Also, I'm now writing about my favourite character in this story who isn't either Sprocket or Frogg. That's a big deal and she's getting me loads of words.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 03, 2015, 07:50:07 PM
Tea is mostly water, even that Builder's Tea that Frogg swears by.  Or the Traveller's Tea that John and Frances fall back on when things get tough.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 08:30:51 PM
Tea is mostly water, even that Builder's Tea that Frogg swears by.  Or the Traveller's Tea that John and Frances fall back on when things get tough.

You ruined my nonsense.

You shouldn't ruin someone else's nonsense.

You're going to have to work hard in the cheering section to earn my forgiveness.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 03, 2015, 08:37:18 PM
Humm, there's a butler in my story. Wonder if he drinks Butler Tea?

I'm not familiar with Builder's Tea, but if builders can have their own tea, why not Butlers?  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 03, 2015, 09:06:42 PM
Chapter Two is an actual chapter, it's in chronological order and everything. It's half done after three hours and it's starting to get super dark in this story.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 04, 2015, 01:09:22 AM
Good to hear that it's starting to come together.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 04, 2015, 01:44:54 AM
Dancing like a crazy person is the best way to rid yourself of overwriting cramps.

Which reminds me, I haven't posted a song for like 36 hours. This is the one that got me through a spell of 1,000 words in an hour tonight. It's crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGXVPI1DqgM

Thank you Ollie for this link: first thing in the morning it really cheered me!  I didn't expect this kind of stuff, and I really laughed! It goes well with Giant Robots  :D And it wakes one up  ;D ;D
Glad to see things go well with your writing Buddy! I got caught by RL yesterday, so did not make my wordcount. Hope to make up for it today.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 04, 2015, 03:03:34 AM
Catherine.  Although my normal tendency is to write in a linear A - Z fashion I completed one NANO by jumping around like a grasshopper on Speed.  I knew how it was going to end, but each time I lost impetus I went to a different scene.  Bounding between a small motorcycle repair/restoration workshop on the south coast of England and the Utah Salt Flats, and a few other places as well.

A few times I was waiting for research replies from a source in America, so, as Alice said recently, I drew a line and pressed on with another part which was clear in my mind.

I wrote in a series of scenes, and worried about chapters later.

It was a wild 25 days.  As Ollie said earlier, the characters took over.

A thought about that last sentence.  Try not to introduce a new character every time your main ones come up against a major problem.  It's a very seductive option, having 'a passing stranger' turn up to move things forwards, and sometimes it's justified, but you can soon end up with a cast of hundreds and your main characters get lost in the crowd.

If you're used to a logical thought process the grasshopper leaps can feel so wrong at first, but it keeps things moving.  You can always lose any bits you really hate when it comes to editing in January, or later.  (Don't edit in December, it's far to close to the act of creation.  You need a clear head to edit what is truly there on the pages rather than what your - by then - fried brain remembers writing.

It's not just about word count - a claim many make when complaining about the NANO frenzy, but my counter to this is that even a literary genius can't edit a blank sheet ;-)

With a nod to your personal circumstances...  When you're working full time as well you have to be a bit ruthless about getting the most out of your writing time.  Free your subconscious and let it romp around all over that plot you drew up.  Some of the detours you take will be far more creative than they seem at the time, purely because they avoided the dead hand of logic.

Press on.

Gyppo 
Really great advice, Gyppo. Thanks! Hoping it'll help me too 😀
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 04, 2015, 03:18:39 AM
So glad tea counts. I'm on my third cup already :)

This thread is great support, thanks everyone! I've done ok the last two days, but today is my day at home with my three year old, so I expect the word count will stall. Hopefully I can plan in my head where to go with it next.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 04, 2015, 03:28:53 AM
So glad tea counts. I'm on my third cup already :)

This thread is great support, thanks everyone! I've done ok the last two days, but today is my day at home with my three year old, so I expect the word count will stall. Hopefully I can plan in my head where to go with it next.
I'm off to work for the whole day RR, (RL :-((() trying to do a few words on the train - sometimes grabbing bits of time works better though. Good luck today! Hopefully we'll be a few more words up this evening. Mary
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 04, 2015, 04:43:58 AM
I'm off to work for the whole day RR, (RL :-((() trying to do a few words on the train - sometimes grabbing bits of time works better though. Good luck today! Hopefully we'll be a few more words up this evening. Mary

Good luck to you Mary, who needs RL? :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 08:05:50 AM
Thank you Ollie for this link: first thing in the morning it really cheered me!  I didn't expect this kind of stuff, and I really laughed! It goes well with Giant Robots  :D And it wakes one up  ;D ;D
Glad to see things go well with your writing Buddy! I got caught by RL yesterday, so did not make my wordcount. Hope to make up for it today.


It really made my day that someone enjoyed that.

Now for writing to be done.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 04, 2015, 08:47:45 AM
Congrats you hit the 5000!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 08:48:26 AM
I'm at 5K, and a thousand written so far today.

I'm going to stop for lunch.

See you all later.

Congrats you hit the 5000!

you ninja'd my declaration. I wanted to be the one to say that I was at 5K.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 04, 2015, 08:54:46 AM
I'm at 5K, and a thousand written so far today.

I'm going to stop for lunch.

See you all later.

you ninja'd my declaration. I wanted to be the one to say that I was at 5K.

I need to speed up!! 😗
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 08:55:50 AM
I need to speed up!! 😗

You sure do.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 04, 2015, 09:37:27 AM
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you ninja'd my declaration. I wanted to be the one to say that I was at 5K.

Sorry about that! I didn't mean to short-circuit you, it's advertised on your word-count widget. I thought you were being modest about it, in order not to discourage us snail-writers! ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Plain Helvetica on November 04, 2015, 09:46:55 AM
It really made my day that someone enjoyed that.

It was strangely enthralling. I've listened to it more than once.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 04, 2015, 11:28:11 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Did it! Hit the 5000! YEEEEHAH ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 04, 2015, 11:31:58 AM
While thinking of what I've written to this point, I realized I've probably used a lot more question marks than is normal for me. That made me realize I've been focusing heavy on dialog so far.

But I'm not going to worry about it for now because the dialog is revealing more about the characters. I can go back and add action and/or scene setting after NaNo and I let it rest a bit then get to the editing.

The knowledge I can edit much later frees me from a lot of worry during the writing.  ;D

Oh, my word count to this point is lower than I would like, but it's growing and that is encouraging.

W/C 3,487

Good for you Catherine.  :o    ;D    8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 04, 2015, 11:51:53 AM
Thanks. Keep it up Alice. You "loose" words I think when using dialogue a lot, rather than plain writing, but it's worth it, so much more lively to have your characters "talk" the story at times.

I'm pleased with my 3 MCs, I introduced each one now, in different ways, and two of them are just like I wanted them. As for the third one, the eldest, I don't feel her right (although she is closest to me in age). She's so self-centred and presomptuous, she does need the troubles she's going to get into in order to become a nicer person!

I'm afraid I've finished my writing day by now, important things are to be done in RL this evening...
Bon courage to all
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 04, 2015, 12:46:27 PM
5000 is the first big round number. Congrats to all who hit it (and caffeine jolts for those not quite there yet). :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 12:56:40 PM
I have decided to put all of my most talkative characters in a room together for no reason (unless Sprocket counts as a reason) and see how many words I get.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 04, 2015, 01:08:17 PM
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I'm pleased with my 3 MCs, I introduced each one now, in different ways, and two of them are just like I wanted them. As for the third one, the eldest, I don't feel her right (although she is closest to me in age). She's so self-centred and presomptuous, she does need the troubles she's going to get into in order to become a nicer person!

You've probably known someone like her in the past. Maybe even as far back as your school days. Take a moment to think about her and how she came across to everyone around her.  :D

Sometimes people we have known can be great patterns to use for our characters.  ;D  It can also be a great way to get a bit of "pay back" by casting them as characters in our stories. >:D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
Sometimes people we have known can be great patterns to use for our characters.  ;D  It can also be a great way to get a bit of "pay back" by casting them as characters in our stories. >:D

and I just outright steal people and use them as characters.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 04, 2015, 02:08:44 PM
It can also be a great way to get a bit of "pay back" by casting them as characters in our stories. >:D

My family once pointed out to me that if a girl in any of my stories was going to die she was always called Susan.  Since then I have never killed a girl called Susan/Suzie/Susanne or any other variation in a story.  But they still take great delight in trying to spot the 'Sacrificial Susans' disguised under other names.

The original Susan who triggered this subconscious killing spree was a headteacher's pet, a thoroughly spoiled little bitch.

=====

There is a potential danger in casting someone you know as a character, except as 'cannon fodder'.  They may behave too much like the real person and not behave as you want the character to behave.

People you see on public transport or in the street are a good starting point.  You have a clear visual image in your mind, and maybe a few phrases or a perceived attitude/outlook, but the character can develop from that without any 'baggage' of reality.

I added a new one to my collection of mental templates a couple of weeks ago.  A big shambling lass, six foot plus and probably at least sixteen stone in weight.  With two walking sticks and absolutely stunning red hair, which was either genuine or a very good dye job.  She sat on the seat in front of me and there was no obvious colour change at the roots.  She spoke a few words to the bus driver and was obviously a jolly person, despite being in pain and limping.

Two stops later she heaved herself up and off the bus again.  But the silhouette and general impression are still burned into my memory.  A literally larger than life character, waiting to strut her stuff on a page one day.

Gyppo   
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 04, 2015, 02:29:38 PM
Congratulations to the big 5k everyone! I've made it there too, but still not quite feeling all the characters yet. I think I need more dialogue, they're not quite alive yet.

I do like the idea of a Sacrificial Susan though! :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 03:21:07 PM
I also use myself as a character frequently. This may not work as well for other people because I'm fantastic, so feel free to steal me.

Also, I have written 1,844 words so far today. This is the song that got me over the line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXgHfHxKVM
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 04, 2015, 04:42:24 PM
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Also, I have written 1,844 words so far today. This is the song that got me over the line.

Do you mean that during 1,844 words  you listened to that song in loop  ??? And you could concentrate   :o

I can't believe it  ::)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 04, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
I'm sure Ollie will answer this for himself, but here's my take on using music as an aid to writing.

For me some tunes are great for setting a mood.  If you're what I think of as a 'Method Writer', similar to being a Method Actor, you will find yourself writing 'in character'.  If you know that a certain kind of music triggers a certain kind of mood then use it to prime the pump before you start writing.  Quite often music without words works well.

It's all part of being able to turn on 'writing mode'.  It won't always work, and it certainly doesn't work for everyone, but when it does it's good.

If you've had a crap day at work and need to get some gentle writing done when you get home, listen to an appropriate tune on the way home, or whilst fixing something to eat.  Let it serve as a transition between the two worlds ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 05:08:07 PM
Do you mean that during 1,844 words  you listened to that song in loop  ??? And you could concentrate   :o

I can't believe it  ::)

No, this was the song that helped me get back to writing after waking up feeling terrible when I took a nap earlier. It helped me get to 1667+ words
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 04, 2015, 05:36:25 PM
Ollie clearly uses it to kickstart his energy levels and his brain.

I've used these two for the same purpose, but wouldn't dream of trying to write whilst they were playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwaVvF7rdU

Probably not a good idea to watch the video if you're epileptic.

or this one, which was something of a nightworker's anthem back in the bakery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cibZydv3XLM

'...this gun's for hire, even if we're just dancin' in the dark...'



Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 05:59:56 PM
I have written to some of the most insane music imaginable.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 04, 2015, 06:01:51 PM
Yay, made it to 5000. Never thought this would happen today as I drank some wine in the afternoon and conked out for a couple of homes. Seems like alcohol is the answer!  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 04, 2015, 06:35:22 PM
It was probably the shutting down for a couple of hours, not the booze.  While you're switched off your subconscious straightens things out and has them waiting for you ;-)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 04, 2015, 06:44:47 PM
Congratulations, here is a giant robot.

Get back to work.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 05, 2015, 01:28:13 AM
Ollie clearly uses it to kickstart his energy levels and his brain.

I've used these two for the same purpose, but wouldn't dream of trying to write whilst they were playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwaVvF7rdU

Probably not a good idea to watch the video if you're epileptic.

or this one, which was something of a nightworker's anthem back in the bakery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cibZydv3XLM



'...this gun's for hire, even if we're just dancin' in the dark...'

Didn't know the first, very Irish just great (you're right about watching though, argh!). As for the Boss, thanks to you Gyppo he sort of woke me up this morning, and I'll sing & dance in my head all day




Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 05, 2015, 02:22:20 AM
I'm taking advantage of your video as well, woohoo, time to start the day and ignore my wordcount :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 05, 2015, 03:10:19 AM
It was probably the shutting down for a couple of hours, not the booze.  While you're switched off your subconscious straightens things out and has them waiting for you ;-)

Hope you're right, Gyppo. It certainly seemed easier to write then  :) thanks for your advice re jumping around with scenes too. It's really helping me.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MJTennant on November 05, 2015, 04:39:09 AM
Wow - 50,000 words in a month!  Of course I could do it but it would be utter twaddle!  I doubt anyone would want to read it LOL.  This is much too ambitious for me.

Good luck to all those who participate!

Tick Tock!

M J Tennant

 ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 05, 2015, 04:49:50 AM
M J, it produces a first draft and lets you find out things about yourself - as a writer - you may never have discovered otherwise.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MJTennant on November 05, 2015, 05:06:42 AM
Hi Gyppo

I think it's a great idea and can see the creative benefits.  Maybe I will give it a go one year.

 :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 05, 2015, 05:18:43 AM
Hey MJ, we've only just started with the NaNo, you can still catch up if you fancy giving it a go :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 05, 2015, 06:55:27 AM
M J, it produces a first draft and lets you find out things about yourself - as a writer - you may never have discovered otherwise.

I confirm that I discover things about myself as a writer. I had not written so much daily up to now, did not feel able, and I had not managed to plan on a long story before either. I've done that (much planning) and discover now that my characters want to take me somewhere slightly different, and I'm  compelled to take new paths, leading to unexpected places. It's just so enjoyable to be surprised by one's own imagination  :) And to realize that you can write in a longer project than very short stories. Not reached the end yet, far from it, but still, very happy to ride sail this boat
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 05, 2015, 07:16:46 AM
I also use myself as a character frequently. This may not work as well for other people because I'm fantastic, so feel free to steal me.

Also, I have written 1,844 words so far today. This is the song that got me over the line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXgHfHxKVM

I just got round to listening to this  :o I now need to make myself a cup of tea to calm down  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 05, 2015, 09:12:24 AM
I just got round to listening to this  :o I now need to make myself a cup of tea to calm down  ;D

Lucky we are to have Thatollie around to cheer us up and make us dance  :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 05, 2015, 10:04:08 AM
Lucky we are to have Thatollie around to cheer us up and make us dance  :D

Yeah, I'm amazing.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 05, 2015, 01:27:19 PM
Yeah, I'm amazing.

  :D

Hope everyone had good days...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 05, 2015, 02:11:24 PM
  :D

Hope everyone had good days...

Real life's rotten :(
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 05, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Real life's rotten :(

Hopefully there's writing :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MJTennant on November 05, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
 :)

I love this thread!

M J
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 05, 2015, 06:33:21 PM
:)

I love this thread!

M J

Well, join in. I'm sure we can find something for you to do.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MJTennant on November 05, 2015, 06:59:06 PM
As I said... I love this thread.

Nano sounds like an amazing challenge and I hope that one day I may be in a position to 'have a go' myself.

As I said earlier, 50k words in a month is a tall order (well for me it is).  Full time worker, mother, wife and owner of two pooches!

Yes, by 'speed writing' I may find out a few things about myself that I never knew existed but... maybe what I learn about myself is not something I want or am in a position to deal with right now?

Food for thought.

M J



Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 05, 2015, 07:07:08 PM
Today, I have been learning what a talentless hack I can be when it comes to writing anything more complicated than two people spouting witticisms at each other.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 05, 2015, 07:32:09 PM
Dig in, Man ;-)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 05, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
Today, I have been learning what a talentless hack I can be when it comes to writing anything more complicated than two people spouting witticisms at each other.

Ollie, I know you are capable of more than you are telling us you are right now. So get real.

Besides, if only two people talking are bugging you, toss another in that will stir things up.  If you're feeling more frustrated that another person can cure, release a few rabid bats. That should get things moving.  ;) 

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 05, 2015, 07:47:33 PM
Dig in, Man ;-)

I'm diggin'. That reminds me of something.

Oh yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXcBzCyiFpA
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 05, 2015, 10:43:41 PM
I'm rather fond of the last five pages, they're completely berserk.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 06, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
I'm rather fond of the last five pages, they're completely berserk.

There, you see  :) You were only complaining out of false modesty again  ::)
Have a great writing, speed ahead  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 06, 2015, 04:06:37 AM
I'm just going to shake my pompoms at everyone in this thread, hoping that the slightly disjointed jiggling of artificial fibres motivates you to keep on churning out those words :)

(Also, as an aside, I hate the words "to motivate" and "to inspire". A side effect of being an educator, I guess, everyone in my profession acts like a Victorian maiden who just got proposed when someone mentions them.)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 06, 2015, 07:09:17 AM
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everyone in my profession acts like a Victorian maiden who just got proposed when someone mentions them.)

 ;D I love the way you say that! So accurate...(same in my profession -shool teacher-, good feelings are much sought after ::))
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 06, 2015, 08:44:31 AM
Come on, you lot. Get back to work. Those novels aren't going to write themselves and that would be boring anyway because then we wouldn't be able to complain about how hard we're working.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 06, 2015, 09:20:26 AM
Whip...*crack*!  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 06, 2015, 10:27:51 AM
Now you got me distracted with that whip of yours, I won't be able to concentrate...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 06, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
Now you got me distracted with that whip of yours, I won't be able to concentrate...

Stare jealously at my word count for a while, that'll help you get your concentration back.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 06, 2015, 10:38:18 AM
Ollie, that's a mighty fine word count you got there... How's the world look like from those heights?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 06, 2015, 10:45:46 AM
Ollie, that's a mighty fine word count you got there... How's the world look like from those heights?

I'm still behind.  >:(
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 06, 2015, 11:08:20 AM
Okay, time for some computer off time.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 06, 2015, 11:12:39 AM
I'm still behind, but moving forward. When I closed the computer last night, I had a total word count  . . .

W/C 5,570

Still way behind Thatollie.

 :o
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 06, 2015, 12:00:38 PM
I'm even more behind, roughly 2000 words, but I officially have a chapter! Yay!  8)

I lost some writing time because after I introduced my main characters I hit the research wall. I want the story to happen in a specific point in time and I just couldn't go on without some references. What I've realized is that in order to write the story with the historical precision I want it would be too time consuming for this particular challenge. I'm considering going on with what I already know and change what isn't accurate later, even if I risk some major rewriting... After all, I have my whole life to edit but only a month to write it, right? ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 06, 2015, 12:08:22 PM
Mine's historical too, Shadow, and that's exactly what I'm doing. I plan to check and change it later - just trying to get the character and feel of the dialogue down for now.

I've not managed to write today.. I'm behind too.. But I figure even if I don't hit 50,000 by the end I'll have written more, and more continuously, than ever before. Which I hope is a Good Thing.

Keep going :) Although it's Friday night. It's dark and wet. I think a glass of wine is in order.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 06, 2015, 02:39:50 PM
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I've not managed to write today.. I'm behind too.. But I figure even if I don't hit 50,000 by the end I'll have written more, and more continuously, than ever before. Which I hope is a Good Thing.

I totally agree Rose.  ;D

I did a little research also. In my case, it was for the proper location to fit the characters and story. The time it's set in is some what flexible, so I'll wait until after Nov. to plot that part out. The main thing that might that might have to change is someone arriving by plane or boat. Air or water . . . easier enough change to make after the fact instead of taking the time to research right now. 

Beside, I know I tend to lose myself when researching. There's so many fascinating things that grab my attention at times.  ::)

Getting a late start back to writing today also. Too many things on the home front that demanded attention.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 06, 2015, 04:50:19 PM
Ah, the research. I'd say write away and then double check in December. I like the water-based arrival idea, Alice, there's something inherently romantic and wild about boats.

I had a bit of a really bad day, so no writing today, but I set my time real early for tomorrow, so. I'll see if I can make up for my lack of updating.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 06, 2015, 05:02:16 PM
Hardly wrote yesterday  and not at all today! I'll have plenty to make up for this week-end if I want to meet my word-count (I'm at 6000 and should be at 10000!)Would need to write 3k tomorrow  and 3 on sunday. And the weather is so lovely, it would be a shame not to run around wildly in the countryside, amongst the golden leaves (except I hate running...give me a swimming pool rather) Anyway, good night all  :-*
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 06, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
I'm considering going on with what I already know and change what isn't accurate later, even if I risk some major rewriting... After all, I have my whole life to edit but only a month to write it, right? ;)

Yes!  Assuming you can do colour highlights make a note in the text to remind yourself, highlight it in red or something equally garish and out of place, and press on.

Remember this is only a first draft, you will have to do some major rewriting anyway.  This is about getting the story down and seeing if it has the legs to run the whole distance.

In the story I mentioned earlier I was totally wrong about some aspects of racing on the Utah Salt Flats, but correcting it later made the story better without killing it.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 06, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
Also, things don't really need to makes sense if the story is good enough.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 06, 2015, 09:10:45 PM
I've been slugging my way through writing a will for an elderly character who is rather well off.

She is not all that happy with how some of her children turned out. As a result, I fear they will not be all that happy when the time comes to read the will.  :o

Not through with the will yet, but to this point I have a word count of  6,914.

May or may not write more before the night is over.

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 06, 2015, 09:52:18 PM
Me sleeps now.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 07, 2015, 01:29:56 PM
Me sleeps now.

Still asleep? Come on wake up to real music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuBU3pzy7is

Get up, you've got work to do!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 07, 2015, 01:36:57 PM
I've been writing quite a bit today, and I'm fairly happy with the story, the narrative part. But really unpleased with my style: too much tell not enough show. It's encouraging to see that the characters get some "épaisseur" (roundness), and that the narrative holds itself, but what the heck! If I can't tell it in a lively bright way, I might as well take to singing (my family would kill me, I sing off key -like a saucepan as we say in french) :'(
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 07, 2015, 01:40:04 PM
AHAHAHA!
AHAHHA!
HA!
I did it! I clocked the words!
For this bitching score I would like to thank my bottle of Chardonnay and my Time I album on repeat. And, as Catherine, I've got tons of narrative but my style could kill small puppies. I am drowning in dialogue.

Catherine, don't worry too much with the style, you got this, you'll polish the style in no time :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 07, 2015, 01:49:13 PM
Over 15k words already!  :D :D :D :D :D
Congratulations!

Do you find a great discrepancy between your wordcount and Nano's? I'm over 100 words difference...Not that it matters much, but it's strange,isn't it?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 07, 2015, 01:51:35 PM
AHAHAHA!
AHAHHA!
HA!
I did it! I clocked the words!
For this bitching score I would like to thank my bottle of Chardonnay and my Time I album on repeat. And, as Catherine, I've got tons of narrative but my style could kill small puppies. I am drowning in dialogue.

Catherine, don't worry too much with the style, you got this, you'll polish the style in no time :)

I am on red local wine, seems to be less productive than white...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 07, 2015, 01:53:47 PM
I pasted my lump into the official word count and went with that. My word processor says 15,606 so not much of a discrepancy, but still weird.

Also, I have to admit that about 500 of these words are my notes on what is going to happen at the end. If I ever get to the end. I am now planning the best way to steal a horse, so my frantic writing hit a very solid wall. I've never stolen a horse before. I should perhaps try to steal one in the name of accurate story-telling.

Also, I found white to be most conductive to word-count, red to imagination and vodka when writing action scenes. And water when re-reading, of course ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 07, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
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the best way to steal a horse,

I can't paste it, have to send it as pm. Doesn't work either. Adress is here, go down to steal a horse

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=https://markystar.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/steal_horse.jpg&imgrefurl=https://markystar.wordpress.com/2013/page/9/&h=491&w=500&tbnid=aeW2qD_9GQr4uM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=93&usg=__mytgTCm0J0WWzBF0UnfvzBLqczA=&docid=w8XZwbw3dGvTWM&sa=X&ved=0CC0Q9QEwAWoVChMIn4DTroj_yAIVSO0UCh0cAgRb
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 07, 2015, 02:43:00 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I haven't laughed so hard in ages. I might make my MC steal a horse by petrifying it just so I can keep this mental image in my brain.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 07, 2015, 02:51:31 PM
Glad you like it...Got to go and be a nice mum and watch The Hobbit with my son  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 07, 2015, 02:53:39 PM
A+ parenting
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 07, 2015, 03:21:17 PM
Anders, I'm both impressed and jealous.

That's good, I need someone to help motivate me.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 07, 2015, 03:27:47 PM
Ollie, I'd help motivate you, but not sure how you work...should I offer rewards, threaten with punishment, appeal to your better nature...?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 07, 2015, 03:35:02 PM
You having written more words than me is motivation enough for now.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 07, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
I can't paste it, have to send it as pm. Doesn't work either. Adress is here, go down to steal a horse

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=https://markystar.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/steal_horse.jpg&imgrefurl=https://markystar.wordpress.com/2013/page/9/&h=491&w=500&tbnid=aeW2qD_9GQr4uM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=93&usg=__mytgTCm0J0WWzBF0UnfvzBLqczA=&docid=w8XZwbw3dGvTWM&sa=X&ved=0CC0Q9QEwAWoVChMIn4DTroj_yAIVSO0UCh0cAgRb
. that's hilarious  ;D

Anders, with that word count you can afford to spend some time stealing horses! Congrats!
Ps: and if you do attempt to steal a horse I suggest taking the vodka with you. Either if you use it on the horse or on yourself it will surely be useful at some point  ;) (carry some sugar cubes too, just in case...)

Thatollie, I wish you could see my word count, it's so low it would probably lift your spirit too, but I can't manage to make those widgety things to work for me  :-\

Ok, this is it, I'm almost hitting 5000 words. I have my coffee ready and nothing to do but write until I drop (which will probably happen embarrassingly early but still...). Wish me luck! And good luck for all of you too!

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 07, 2015, 04:55:13 PM
GOOOOOOD LUUUUUUUUCK
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 07, 2015, 05:01:36 PM
Good luck to you shadowboxer! Stay on track, we will be victorious in the end! I can already see the finish line, glittering gold, urging us all on...


(Also, from my (plentiful) horse-related experience, they are a mean bunch. Sugar cubes work as long as then know you, otherwise the bastards like to step on your foot. Still, I'll sacrifice my Sunday for researching horse-behaviour when threatened with horsenapping. If hospital happens, at least they'll have WiFi.)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 07, 2015, 05:03:24 PM
CC, you want this page.
http://nanowrimo.org/widgets

Then you just copy and paste it into your signature.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 07, 2015, 05:08:03 PM
Stealing a horse is easy enough.

But first you have to steal a horsebox in which to move it.

And before that you have to steal a suitable vehicle to move the horsebox once you have stolen it.

And you have to do all this without getting caught, or getting your head kicked in.   The latter might still even happen at the end of this string of tasks when you try to get the horse into the box, or back out again.

For keeping your Nano flowing just do a red highlight with HORSE STOLEN HERE, and pick up the tale with the deed already completed.  Worry about the technicalities later ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 07, 2015, 05:14:03 PM
Gyppo, a sound advice and one which does not land anyone in jail! Many thanks.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 07, 2015, 05:51:39 PM
CC, you want this page.
http://nanowrimo.org/widgets

Then you just copy and paste it into your signature.

Done, thanks Thatollie!

Also done: 5000+!  :o I'm catching up ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 07, 2015, 09:36:19 PM
Okay, so, I really like this song. I'm also rather jealous of this talented fellow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tUXl7azFpQ
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 08, 2015, 10:32:47 AM
GRRRRR I'm behind, I'm behind! And I'm fed up :P Only 800 words since this morning (well between cooking, picking sweet apples bright red in a golden lit orchard sundust falling all over us it was gorgeous, laundrying and living), and I planned to write 4000 today :'(
So WHAT AM I DOING HERE??? ::)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 08, 2015, 10:34:28 AM
You have come here so we can tell you that you are doing well, you're grand, your novel will be all the better for you taking this day to live it :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 08, 2015, 10:40:35 AM
You have come here so we can tell you that you are doing well, you're grand, your novel will be all the better for you taking this day to live it :)

Can you say it again pleaeaeaease?!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 08, 2015, 10:43:46 AM
You're grand, your word count does not define the quality of your work :) And if you do not live, how will you find something to write about?
You're doing it right, don't you worry, so :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 08, 2015, 11:59:10 AM
Catherine, you are doing well.

When you're a few thousand words behind; trying to make up the entire difference in one day, especially if you're not used to writing a lot in such a brief amount of time, can have a hugely negative effect. You might have written 4000 words if you'd spent all day at your computer, but you would be tired and discouraged and far less likely to sit down and write something tomorrow.

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 08, 2015, 12:02:56 PM
Anders and Ollie you are my friends for life 8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 08, 2015, 12:05:20 PM
Ditto to the above! I'm 'only' just over 10000 myself but I've never written anything longer than 3000 words so I'm quite chuffed. I know how you feel though, Catherine. It's difficult not to feel slightly under pressure when you see people who are further on than us. I guess the key is not to compare yourself with anyone..
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 08, 2015, 12:07:31 PM
Anders and Ollie you are my friends for life 8)

Well, yes, we're awesome. But you should at least write something today.

Get to it.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 08, 2015, 12:10:41 PM
Agree with Ollie. It can be just 100 words, no worries there.

Don't compare yourself to anyone at this point, you're only competing against yourself :)

Besides, how do you know me and Ollie aren't just writing 'badger' over and over again  :D


Also, Mary Ruth, good job there on exceeding the wordcount :) I'm the same, first time doing something as lengthy. We're gonna be so pleased with ourselves, just you wait :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 08, 2015, 12:14:32 PM
Agree with Ollie. It can be just 100 words, no worries there.

Don't compare yourself to anyone at this point, you're only competing against yourself :)

Besides, how do you know me and Ollie aren't just writing 'badger' over and over again  :D


Also, Mary Ruth, good job there on exceeding the wordcount :) I'm the same, first time doing something as lengthy. We're gonna be so pleased with ourselves, just you wait :D

I thought I was writing badger and you were writing horse. You know, six letters to five because I'm the veteran.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 08, 2015, 12:17:43 PM
I thought I was writing badger and you were writing horse. You know, six letters to five because I'm the veteran.

...Em...I may or may not have screwed up then. I'll be right back, there's just some...uhm...editing I need to do.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 08, 2015, 12:21:31 PM
Ditto to the above! I'm 'only' just over 10000 myself but I've never written anything longer than 3000 words so I'm quite chuffed. I know how you feel though, Catherine. It's difficult not to feel slightly under pressure when you see people who are further on than us. I guess the key is not to compare yourself with anyone..

Hello MR! I feel the pressure when I look at my stats and see day 8 I should be around 13500 words and I'm at the moment around 9000. It means if I want my 50k by end of November I have to work hard! But like you I'm real pleased/proud to have written so many words, first time also I go so far in a story! And that in itself is exhilarating :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 08, 2015, 12:23:32 PM
Well, yes, we're awesome. But you should at least write something today.

Get to it.

I've written over 1000 words so far today, hope for more in the evening...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 08, 2015, 12:26:29 PM
I'll race you ;) Last one to write 1321 words is a rotten egg!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 08, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
I'll race you ;) Last one to write 1321 words is a rotten egg!

I've written 1505 so i get the automatic win.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 08, 2015, 12:34:22 PM
I meant starting from now :D

And I am totally hero-worshiping you, just for the record...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 08, 2015, 02:15:39 PM
blow..I've been ill all weekend, and haven't written a thing :( now I have some serious catching up to do… I'll take the tip to try and make it up over a few days. Fingers crossed. And well done to everyone so far!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 08, 2015, 02:16:37 PM
Just a word of encouragement . . . at least I hope it's encouraging.

One year while I was working I had been writing pretty much everyday on my NaNo story. I had written pretty much every day, but not always to the word count per day that would be needed.

On Nov. 30th, I had pretty much decided to give up because I was short something over two thousand words to go . . . and it was a work day.

That meant I would be unable to even be able to try getting the word needed to finish on time. But as the time ticked by, I also became determined to give it my best try.  When I got home I put some finger food on a plate, got out a cold Dr. Pepper and a bottle of water and got to work.

One hour before midnight I started trying to enter my words into the word counter on the NaNo site. Seemed everyone else was also trying to do the same thing and it was hard to get in.

Finally did get in and when I saw my final word count was really surprise.

It seemed my determination gave my imagination and fingers wings. I finished with a couple of hundred over the 50,000 words needed.

True, I haven't managed that every time I've entered. Real life has the bad habit of interrupting/throwing a monkey wrench in and way-laying the best of our intentions at times.

But some stories I started during NaNo and failed to finish by the deadline have still been great practice for me. An added plus is that I've met some character that popped up (uninvited) that have suggested other stories and characters I might have missed had I not turned off the internal editor and simply wrote.

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 08, 2015, 02:19:48 PM
You're right Alice, I'm going to keep going. And well done to you - that must have taken some determination. Thank you :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 08, 2015, 02:35:39 PM
Fair play to you, Alice.
And that was actually very encouraging, so I thank you :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 08, 2015, 02:40:26 PM
You're right Alice, I'm going to keep going. And well done to you - that must have taken some determination. Thank you :)

Thanks Rose,

I can be more stubborn than usual at times.  ;D

It helped that my oldest son is a writer also and he was way ahead of me on word count. I'm proud of my sons when they accomplish something better than me. But it also makes me try all the harder . . . even is the something is nothing more than a game like the old video game called something like Fish.

Another son had brought that game to the house and challenged me to a game. He beat me hands down naturally. I had never played that one before.

His mistake was allowing me to keep it at the house so I could practice. Before too long, I beat him at his game. He would never play that particular game with me again.  ;D

We played other games, just not that one.  8)

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Fair play to you, Alice.
And that was actually very encouraging, so I thank you Smiley

I'm glad you found it so Anders. Now I've got to get back to my pages and write some more. Hopefully some of it will escape being edited out when the time comes.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 08, 2015, 03:10:59 PM
I like the positive vibe I feel amongst this year's contenders.  It's a good way to be.

As Alice said, you'll meet some wonderful characters along the way you may never have met otherwise.  One day you may well decide that one of them deserves to be the protagonist in a story of their own.  I've met a few that way.

=====

Now for a quick look at the mathematics...

22 days left.

Even if you only have 8000 words so far, look at it this way.

22 days at 2000 words a a day is only a few more words each day than the NANO average of 1700 or so.   But it will give you 44,000 words.

44 + 8 = 52, which gives a comfortable little buffer zone.

=====

Reminder:  They open for validation in the last week, so if you know you've got enough get it validated.  Even if you're still working.  On the last day the system can get a bit overloaded, and wouldn't it be a total bummer to have 50,000 plus but not get it validated in time.

You'd still have a body of work, and the valuable 'work experience' to add to your 'apprenticeship', but it's nice to print out that certificate and pin it on your wall as reminder of what you can do.

Press on, People.  Press on.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 08, 2015, 03:45:13 PM
Thanks for all the great encouragement and advice - it's so helpful and even if I stop now (which I won't!) I've still written more than I've ever written and even for that I'm grateful. Hope you feel better very soon RR
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 08, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Thanks, I'm much better now Mary. And inspired by Alice (thank you!), I've added almost 2,000 words tonight, so have just hit 10k woo-hoo! Now I feel like I'm back on track - and you're right Gyppo: 2,000 words isn't so much more than 1,700. It doesn't seem such a mountain when you put it like that.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 08, 2015, 04:12:21 PM
I'm glad to see everyone going great guns at the moment. This makes this post a lot easier.

Oliver's Advice: Back Up Special

You should be finding a place off your hard drive to make an extra save of your work at least once a week. This is to stop random computer malfunctions from destroying large swathes of your hard earned word count.

This is extraordinarily important. I know this because I once lost the last two chapters of a novella I was working on during nanowrimo. If I hadn't have been backing up my work, I would have lost 40,000 words total.

I personally prefer to email myself copies of all my chapters.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 08, 2015, 04:15:41 PM
Holy cheesecrackers, I never thought of that... I'm emailing myself now.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 08, 2015, 04:17:27 PM
Do it, People.

The backups you intended to make will not save you.  Only the backups you have done.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 08, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
Do it, People.

The backups you intended to make will not save you.  Only the backups you have done.

Damn right.

You've lost work too, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 08, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
Oh yes.  Sometimes you can get it back, sometimes not.

I must emphasise your point about storing things off your hard drive.  If your machine only has one drive, and if it gets fried, or if your laptop gets stolen, it doesn't help to have stored things in different partitions on that one drive.

I like USB thumb drives.  Even a small one will hold an entire novel.

Wear it on a thong around your neck until NANO is over.

But start your saving even further back.  Find the autosave settings on your processor and set it for something ludicrously short like three minutes.  Just think about this...  Even if you're rattling along at 70 WPM you'll never lose more than 210 words.

Plenty of people on here advocate cloud storage for backups.  If you're happy with that concept, then go for it.  I'm old fashioned.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 08, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
10k  :D
Backing up thanks to all your good advice, I had thought of cloud and USB thumb drive, but would not have thought of email to myself. Clever :D
Good night folks, END for me tonight, my pillow's waiting...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 08, 2015, 05:17:05 PM
10k  :D
Backing up thanks to all your good advice, I had thought of cloud and USB thumb drive, but would not have thought of email to myself. Clever :D
Good night folks, END for me tonight, my pillow's waiting...

It's the cheapskate option and that's why it appeals to me. I'm not cheap, but I like to use a free option because it makes me feel clever for beating all the usb/cloud folk.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 08, 2015, 05:43:28 PM
I take it you have some form of webmail then, so the messages are saved on the server.  If you have an old-fashioned email client and save your mails on your computer then they're just at much at risk as any other drive-based files.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 08, 2015, 05:53:27 PM
Just hit 8000!  ;D I'm getting there, slow and steady  8) (I write every time I can, even if only for five minutes. But I never shut down before knowing what'll come next so I keep the flow going - thanks again for the stellar advice Gyppo  ;))

Loved to read today's posts on this thread, great advice, motivation and fun, thank you all  :-*
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 08, 2015, 06:01:31 PM
I've got to where I use Drop Box for most of my writing,but I also use USB thumb drives and/or CD which I store with labels.

I learned the hard way when at one job years ago I was in charge of the computers. We use a tape back up which meant every evening I back every thing and took that tape home with me. Should disaster strike, I had to back up ready to go. The next day, I took the tape from two days before to work and at the end of day, taped over it with the new back up. I did this Monday through Saturday.

So naturally it was one Sunday when the owners of the company went in to tend to something and decided they were going to do something or the other with the computers.

They did something all right. Wiped out several days work in a few minuter. After trying to get it back for some time, they gave up and called me to come and "fix it."

I did so with tape in hand of course.

I already did backups of my work at home. But that day made me obsessive about back-up.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 08, 2015, 06:26:10 PM
I take it you have some form of webmail then, so the messages are saved on the server.  If you have an old-fashioned email client and save your mails on your computer then they're just at much at risk as any other drive-based files.

Yeah, all my old files from when I was writing on the family computer are still saved on there.

Also, this computer has crashed before and been completely rebooted and those files were all recovered.

You scared me for a second there.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 06:32:50 AM
Does anyone ever do word sprints? Think it could be the answer for me! Not sure whether to try the Twitter ones or set up my own with any one interested? I'm up for doing one tonight at about 9 pm for 20 or 30 mins GMT. Is anyone interested?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 07:12:03 AM
Does anyone ever do word sprints? Think it could be the answer for me! Not sure whether to try the Twitter ones or set up my own with any one interested? I'm up for doing one tonight at about 9 pm for 20 or 30 mins GMT. Is anyone interested?

I'm not sure what time that will be for me (+1/-1  ?)I'll check & let you know...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 09, 2015, 07:18:28 AM
My youngest daughter swore by them when she did Nano a couple of times.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 08:23:01 AM
My youngest daughter swore by them when she did Nano a couple of times.

Good to know. Thanks, Gyppo.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 09, 2015, 08:24:06 AM
They are helpful. I don't use them too much because losing to me over and over again will demotivate the other writers.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
I'm not sure what time that will be for me (+1/-1  ?)I'll check & let you know...

Okay! I'm planning to do a couple of hours from around 9 pm GMT and it'd be nice to have some company  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 08:25:08 AM
They are helpful. I don't use them too much because losing to me over and over again will demotivate the other writers.

Gives us tortoises something to aim for though, Ollie!  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 09, 2015, 09:22:16 AM
What a noble and self effacing fellow Ollie is.

You can of course just set a kitchen timer and compete with the clock rather than another writer.  It does help to concentrate the mind.  You may be surprised just how much you can get done in twenty minutes or half an hour.

Then if it's flowing well, reset and plunge in again.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 09, 2015, 09:25:05 AM
What a noble and self effacing fellow Ollie is.

You can of course just set a kitchen timer and compete with the clock rather than another writer.  It does help to concentrate the mind.  You may be surprised just how much you can get done in twenty minutes or half an hour.

Then if it's flowing well, reset and plunge in again.

Now there's an opponent I'm rather fond of.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 09, 2015, 09:56:39 AM
I found a Word Sprint site that looks like it would work well as an online sprint with a group or only one.

https://www.mywriteclub.com/beta/word-sprints#/

It has some instructions for automatic count and save. Among other information about this site, it ends with this . . .

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Yes. Only your word count is shared. The actual words you write are never sent to myWriteClub; they are only stored on your computer and in your Dropbox, as described above.  

Note - myWriteClub is not a reference to MyWritersCircle.

And since we have members all around the world, here's a good Time Conversion site.

http://www.timebie.com/tz/timezonesearch.php
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 09, 2015, 10:08:52 AM
I'm at 15,000 words.

30% done doesn't sound like much compared to the amount of work I've put in. I guess that's what I get for doing something difficult.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 10:54:24 AM
Okay! I'm planning to do a couple of hours from around 9 pm GMT and it'd be nice to have some company  :)

I'll be in from 9pm gmt (10pm for me); shall we sprint 30 minutes for our first time (we might get out of breath if longer :D)
I'll put on my best writer's suit and run run run will my fingers!
Let's give the start from here shall we?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 11:44:03 AM
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You can of course just set a kitchen timer and compete with the clock rather than another writer.  It does help to concentrate the mind.  You may be surprised just how much you can get done in twenty minutes or half an hour.

I just did a 30' training with my kitchen clock. Did 500 words. It gives me something to beat tonight when we do our sprint. I'm starting to feel aches from typing today: shoulders and index fingers (although I took a typing course in my very young years, on real mechanical typewriters, with ribbons to change and keys that got all mixed up and stuck, I never got to practice until my first computer  fifteen or so years ago - how could I live without one before?- so I resume : although blabla....I type with only two fingers  :o )
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 01:16:35 PM
I'll be in from 9pm gmt (10pm for me); shall we sprint 30 minutes for our first time (we might get out of breath if longer :D)
I'll put on my best writer's suit and run run run will my fingers!
Let's give the start from here shall we?

perfect. 9-9.30! I'm going to try another one now..
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 01:25:37 PM
perfect. 9-9.30! I'm going to try another one now..

Great! See you later then...
Who else joins?  :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 09, 2015, 02:17:33 PM
Aww, that'll be around the girls bedtime  :-\
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 03:04:06 PM
Aww, that'll be around the girls bedtime  :-\

You can always pretend it's bedtime earlier tonight: they're too  young to check ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 03:24:33 PM
My "r" key is getting real gripped! Anyone has a trick to loosen it up? I miss "r"s all over the place... "t" is getting tough also, I have to strike it hard...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 03:47:56 PM
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perfect. 9-9.30! I'm going to try another one now..

Massage your fingers MaryRuth!  8)  Time minus twenty minutes  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 03:54:30 PM
Massage your fingers MaryRuth!  8)  Time minus twenty minutes  ;)

5 minutes!  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 03:59:50 PM
All settled! Word count up-dated! You give the start
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 04:00:36 PM
okay.. from now!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 04:01:09 PM
GO!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
Yeeehah! 708 words!  ::) My shoulders and fingers are in pain, my brain is singing!! ;)
What about you ?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 04:32:20 PM
Yeeehah! 708 words!  ::) My shoulders and fingers are in pain, my brain is singing!! ;)
What about you ?

825! I think this is the method for me  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 04:36:01 PM
GREAT! I did better than usual too. My wc doesn't match exactly Nanowrimo's (I'm on 12250 at home). But for now I'm exhausted...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 09, 2015, 04:39:57 PM
I was just about to suggest a 5mins breather and racing again :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 04:42:30 PM
I was just about to suggest a 5mins breather and racing again :)

Did you run with us? How many words?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 09, 2015, 04:46:16 PM
I ran after you :D 552, cause I only remembered 10mins too late :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 04:53:31 PM
I ran after you :D 552, cause I only remembered 10mins too late :D

You should have set an alarm to be on time  ;D Off I am to bed. 26 overexcited kids are hoping for me to be tired tomorrow, in order to walk all over me  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 09, 2015, 04:54:49 PM
Sleep well :) I'll set the alarm next time  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 09, 2015, 04:55:22 PM
My "r" key is getting real gripped! Anyone has a trick to loosen it up? I miss "r"s all over the place... "t" is getting tough also, I have to strike it hard...

Laptop or desktop?

It probably means you've spilt something there and it's dried enough to gum things up.  Or, if you eat whilst working, there may just be crumbs underneath the keys.

Seeing as R and T are both playing up and are close on the keyboard it's probably the same cause.

Possible solutions.

Laptop:  You can possibly pry off the two keys and wipe around underneath, but you'll curse me if you can't get them back on properly.  So try turning it upside down and gently banging it against your desk or table  This will often shake out any crumbs.

Both of these are 'owner's risk' solutions.

If you have a spare USB port on your laptop just plug in a spare keyboard - buy a cheap one if necessary - and use that instead of the built in one.

Desktop:  You can unplug the keyboard, invert it, and whack it a lot harder than you would the built in part of a laptop.  You will probably be horrified how much crud falls out.  Otherwise plug in a spare board.

I don't know about France, but here in the UK I can pick up a perfectly usable cheap board for somewhere between £5 and £10.  Well worth it get a novel finished.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 09, 2015, 04:55:31 PM
Yes, I have to do an assignment for a writing course now. I ain't feeling it! Same time tomorrow?  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 09, 2015, 05:00:17 PM
Thanks Gyppo, I did all that already. And I NEVER eat while typing. Only drink (preferably wine, otherwise herbal tea  ;D )

I'll look for a solution tomorrow. In the meantime I strike hard!

' night everybody!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 09, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
Spilled wine dries sticky ;-(

Especially sweet wines.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 09, 2015, 07:33:55 PM
It's time for more Oliver's Advice.

This may not be advice that Planners find particularly needed because they'll have planned this sort of thing but Pantsers really do need to be reminded of this.

Right now 10-20K into a story is when (in a shortish novel) the first major disaster strikes. And it should be disastrous. It should be a grand screw up that makes everything worse. Now is the time, so start setting it up.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 10, 2015, 01:07:45 AM
Spilled wine dries sticky ;-(

Especially sweet wines.

Don't like them (sweet wines)  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 10, 2015, 01:11:12 AM
It's time for more Oliver's Advice.

This may not be advice that Planners don't find particularly needed because they'll have planned this sort of thing but Pantsers really do need to be reminded of this.

Right now 10-20K into a story is when (in a shortish novel) the first major disaster strikes. And it should be disastrous. It should be a grand screw up that makes everything worse. Now is the time, so start setting it up.

Mine's getting on the train today. Should be arriving around 6.30 pm. The others are going to get her at the station. And then...badaboum! We'll get into the heat of things. Thanks for the advice all the same.  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 10, 2015, 06:36:38 AM
I like Oliver's Advice. It should be a regular column.

Also, my band of misfits just stole the blasted horse! Now some serious poopstorm's about to go down...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 10, 2015, 06:57:01 AM
I like Oliver's Advice. It should be a regular column.

Also, my band of misfits just stole the blasted horse! Now some serious poopstorm's about to go down...

How did you steal it ? Make me laugh. A link to a good example here (around the 40th second..., but worth watching the 2 minutes...for the music hahaha. Ollie will LOOOOOVE it ;D)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yd_Vz14938
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 10, 2015, 12:33:39 PM
 :-X Totally uninspired today...Not one word down: blank new file titled "DAY10". How about you lot? Seems there's nobody around today  :(
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 10, 2015, 12:48:35 PM
:-X Totally uninspired today...Not one word down: blank new file titled "DAY10". How about you lot? Seems there's nobody around today  :(

I've already written 1667 for the day.

I'm about to get back to work, you should too.

It's important that even if you don't make the daily goal that you get as close as you can manage. It leaves you less to catch up when you actually are feeling ready to write (and you will feel ready to write again soon enough).
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 10, 2015, 12:53:37 PM
Thanks, Ollie. I'm back at it, after a horrible day at work. I'm starting to get back into it, only my fingers don't follow!! All stiff...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 10, 2015, 01:00:11 PM
I've been working all day so no time at all. Will start later this evening (hopefully)..
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 10, 2015, 01:18:04 PM
500 words more...merely claptrap...all to be edited later
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 10, 2015, 01:18:44 PM
Keep going Catherine! And everyone else too…

I once read that Val McDermid, when unsure what to write next, sends her characters to the laundrette. Where it is so unimaginably dull (but you have to imagine the dullness, and to write it down), that it soon becomes clear that they should be doing something else instead. I just hope she remembers to delete the laundrette parts :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 10, 2015, 02:11:50 PM
Okay, Ollie, this advice of yours def needs to be a regular column ;) I managed to write 300 words only today, during a particularly terrible meeting, but I'm after correcting this mistake.

As for the horse-stealing thing...I was complaining far and wide how I'm sabotaging my characters by making everything so difficult and my sister said, hey, just have them walk in the place and walk out with the horse. So I did, and wrote my MC complaining what a stupid plan that was and how they're going to get tortured and killed as well as bitten and trampled by the horse (who was of course modelled after a true horseperson. Right bastard that one was, stamp you as soon as look at you). And in the end the MC is just picking up her jaw from the floor, cause they walked in, opened the stable doors, saddled up the bastard and walked out. She even comments that this is totally impossible and can't be happening at all. Of course, she's right.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 11, 2015, 01:43:46 AM
Okay, Ollie, this advice of yours def needs to be a regular column ;) I managed to write 300 words only today, during a particularly terrible meeting, but I'm after correcting this mistake.

But then I'd have to think stuff up to give advice. I'm too busy writing to be thinking.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 11, 2015, 06:42:56 AM
But then I'd have to think stuff up to give advice. I'm too busy writing to be thinking.

Also, giving the same three pieces of advice over and over again seems to be working for me.

I'm building up some sort of bizarre wrimo fanclub over on the forums.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 11, 2015, 05:09:28 PM
This thread is too quiet today... Everyone ok?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 11, 2015, 05:17:49 PM
It is suspiciously quiet, but I see Ollies wordcount has gone up.  I haven't scanned back to see the others yet.

You're about a third of the way through now.  This is a point where many novelists, new or experienced, find a bit of slump happening.  It's one of those statistical things.

Once you know this happens to nearly everyone it doesn't seem so personal.  The only cure is to press on through.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 11, 2015, 06:17:11 PM
I've written some over the last few day, but not as much as I wish. A couple of not so good health days took a big toll, But feeling a bit better today.

The good thing is, I still like my story and a rather mixed bag of characters.
Some good folks and others not so good. A couple of them are starting to talk to me too.  That's always a plus.  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 11, 2015, 08:23:47 PM
That's good.  Sounds like something you'll want to carry on with after the end of November, whatever your word-count.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 11, 2015, 09:40:08 PM
I suspect you're right Gyppo.

It's also a very different type of story than what is usual for me.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 11, 2015, 11:43:06 PM
This thread is too quiet today... Everyone ok?

I'm pretty sure that's only because no-one wanted to wake me up.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 12, 2015, 04:47:00 AM
Right, I'm done for now. Another 1667 bites the dust.

20K achieved.

It's only going to get tougher from now on so I'll see you lot laterz.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 12, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
Great word counts, you guys. Almost halfway there.  :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 12, 2015, 02:34:48 PM
Phew, I'm on 18k. It's been hard work getting to that point, but I fear the next 18k may be harder. I think I'm suffering from the mid-point slump, but despite the temptation to go away and write something different, I'm going to try really hard to keep going and finish this thing.

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 12, 2015, 02:42:46 PM
Phew, I'm on 18k. It's been hard work getting to that point, but I fear the next 18k may be harder. I think I'm suffering from the mid-point slump, but despite the temptation to go away and write something different, I'm going to try really hard to keep going and finish this thing.



I feel the same! Almost at 18 k now too. Worried I'm going to run out of ideas...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 12, 2015, 03:09:52 PM
Phew, I'm on 18k. It's been hard work getting to that point, but I fear the next 18k may be harder. I think I'm suffering from the mid-point slump, but despite the temptation to go away and write something different, I'm going to try really hard to keep going and finish this thing.

Quote
I feel the same! Almost at 18 k now too. Worried I'm going to run out of ideas...

And I feel just the same too!

I read this about it : " The Dark Night Of The Soul. It is that moment when you hit a mental roadblock and gently, soothingly, depression wraps itself around you like the snuggliest of duvets, and a little voice whispers to you that you should just give up. It’s rubbish. What did you think you were trying to do? Save face now. Quit before you embarrass yourself any further."

Fairly accurate description of my feelings  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 12, 2015, 03:26:58 PM
This is the time to dig deep into your mental reserves and fight on.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 12, 2015, 03:41:13 PM
This is the time to dig deep into your mental reserves and fight on.

We do, we do. I need another 400 words to hit today's target. But I must say I'm exhausted...I'd never have thought writing could be physically tiring  :o
And storywise, as I said earlier to a friend, I'm pedalling into yoghurt (as we say in french)!
I go back to my writing ;D thanks for your encouragements :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 12, 2015, 03:54:25 PM
One way to by-pass the internal editor and his attempts to side track you and your writing is to jump instead.

If you know what should happen later in your story, jump ahead. Write something like Later in the Story, then write. Even if it's the conclusion, go ahead and write.

Doing so may even help you when you come back to the spot where you left off with new ideas and words. 

 
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 12, 2015, 04:13:03 PM
I wrote 8 words today  :-\ Mid-text slump? Maybe. I'm feeling all the "ugh, rubbish, delete this" words really loudly. Also, my meds are being difficult today and I spent half the day exhausted. I will press on and write 800 words today, though.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 12, 2015, 04:26:52 PM
I wrote 8 words today  :-\ Mid-text slump? Maybe. I'm feeling all the "ugh, rubbish, delete this" words really loudly. Also, my meds are being difficult today and I spent half the day exhausted. I will press on and write 800 words today, though.

Go on! You'll make it... Oliver is watching you, I'd bet  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 12, 2015, 04:28:26 PM
I am imagining a slightly sardonic smirk...better get on with it then!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 12, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
Good evening, everyone.

Well, now, if there was ever a time for it I think I need to confess to my dirtiest trick.

I dance like an idiot to give myself extra energy.

You don't have to dance, but get moving and you'll find that it clears your head and loosens up all those stiff joints.

Go on! You'll make it... Oliver is watching you, I'd bet  ;)

Yes, I see all.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 12, 2015, 04:34:34 PM
You could have at least commented on my new hairdo, I had it done special...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 12, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
You could have at least commented on my new hairdo, I had it done special...

I have a personal policy that if I can't say anything nice, I don't say anything at all.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 12, 2015, 04:47:43 PM
I will kill my hairdresser, she said pink was in this season!

Also, I will at one point need to introduce a minor character. I think I will name him Oliver, in your honour. And he might have pink hair, to remind me of the time when I had 0 things to write about.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 12, 2015, 04:51:36 PM
Today seems to be a day of coincidences. I drew a young anime man with pink hair earlier. I'll scan it in at some point (maybe, I'm not really good at doing the things I'll say I'll do).
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 12, 2015, 05:05:39 PM
My mental-ray seems to be working. Excellent, excellent!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 12, 2015, 05:19:15 PM
Pink?  According to a post on another thread this is supposed to be Redhead Day.

My Muse is a little Redhead, and she told me to share this joke with you to lighten your darkness.

Q:  Why is making love to a redhead like riding a Luge?

A:  Because the same advice applies to both.

"Just lie down, hold on, and try not to die before the ride ends."
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 12, 2015, 06:10:10 PM
It's time for another song to get everyone's energy levels back up.

You know, whenever someone sat next me has music playing and doesn't wear headphones, I like to crank my laptop volume to full, unplug my headphones and put this song on.

No Matter How I Look at It, It's Your Fault I'm Not Popular - Konomi Suzuki and Kiba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PHbR3xf6Vs
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 13, 2015, 12:30:30 AM
It's time for another song to get everyone's energy levels back up.

You know, whenever someone sat next me has music playing and doesn't wear headphones, I like to crank my laptop volume to full, unplug my headphones and put this song on.

No Matter How I Look at It, It's Your Fault I'm Not Popular - Konomi Suzuki and Kiba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PHbR3xf6Vs

Oh my God, I almost fainted  :o
It is 6.30 am and this is too much for me! I must go back to bed now...and I didn't even dance, only listended (tried to  :D ) Give me some Neil Young that early, next time - please.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 13, 2015, 05:33:44 AM
Oh my God, I almost fainted  :o
It is 6.30 am and this is too much for me! I must go back to bed now...and I didn't even dance, only listended (tried to  :D ) Give me some Neil Young that early, next time - please.

Well, desperate times call for desperate measures.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 13, 2015, 06:18:31 AM
Maybe Catherine will find this more appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G6H2tQCaOA
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 13, 2015, 06:24:56 AM
I have received new inspiration or rather a new reason to write as much as possible.

I've been yelling at this young writer for a week to get writing and they've made up five thousand of the six thousand words they were behind.

If I don't start hauling ass, I'm going to get overtaken.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 13, 2015, 06:30:17 AM
I have received new inspiration or rather a new reason to write as much as possible.

I've been yelling at this young writer for a week to get writing and they've made up five thousand of the six thousand words they were behind.

If I don't start hauling ass, I'm going to get overtaken.

If the pack are nipping at your heels there's not much choice, is there?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 13, 2015, 06:38:07 AM
I know, but writing is so hard.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 13, 2015, 06:43:15 AM
Isn't that part of why you enjoy it?  You, I am sure, would be bored stiff it was too easy.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 13, 2015, 06:49:36 AM
Isn't that part of why you enjoy it?  You, I am sure, would be bored stiff it was too easy.

I meant physically hard, I'm quite the fan of mental hard work.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 13, 2015, 06:57:52 AM
I meant physically hard, I'm quite the fan of mental hard work.

Go on run run run Ollie ! I bet on you, don't disappoint me please. You know you are our light, our flag, our hero, our GIANT WRITING ROBOT.
Would that help any?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs1CA5hFdd4

See? I try hard to keep up with youth, despite my 55 yo!! (I'm so  8), you'd love for me to be your mom
grand-ma  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 13, 2015, 06:59:29 AM
Maybe Catherine will find this more appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G6H2tQCaOA

Yes... But still, nothing beats old Neil on waking up  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 13, 2015, 07:09:49 AM
Go on run run run Ollie ! I bet on you, don't disappoint me please. You know you are our light, our flag, our hero, our GIANT WRITING ROBOT.
Would that help any?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs1CA5hFdd4

See? I try hard to keep up with youth, despite my 55 yo!! (I'm so  8), you'd love for me to be your mom
grand-ma  ;D

Okay...

Now I can't stop wondering whether those girls are children or if they've green screened them and scrunched the image. I have to know now. Nano over, time to research bizarre Japanese music videos.

Or I could just get back to work.

That would probably be better for my sanity.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 13, 2015, 07:42:58 AM
I meant physically hard, I'm quite the fan of mental hard work.

Ah, yes.  I often warn people about that side of it but they rarely believe me.  Especially younger folks.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 13, 2015, 01:37:56 PM
3,500 words written so far today. Some of them even made sense.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 13, 2015, 01:50:40 PM
3,500 words written so far today. Some of them even made sense.

I WANT to hit 20k today, but off to friends for a meal: it'll have to be late writing...
Bravo Ollie, I knew I could rely on you.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 13, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
You're only like 164 words from 20K.

That's cool.

I may hit 25K later.

Unless this show Noizchild recommended to me is absolutely awesome then I'm probably sunk.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 13, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
Good job Thatollie! You're definitely our NanoHero  8)

Today I wrote 900+ words on the go. I still have tonight and Saturday is coming, I'm determined to catch up! (Just hit 15000)

Have fun Catherine!  :-*

Ps: I found my lets-do-this-thing song (possibly one of the best songs ever)

https://youtu.be/0J2QdDbelmY
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 13, 2015, 03:07:42 PM
Good job Thatollie! You're definitely our NanoHero  8)

Today I wrote 900+ words on the go. I still have tonight and Saturday is coming, I'm determined to catch up! (Just hit 15000)

Have fun Catherine!  :-*

Ps: I found my lets-do-this-thing song (possibly one of the best songs ever)

https://youtu.be/0J2QdDbelmY

I love that track! It's definitely a get-up-and-go song.

I've just hit 20k…feel like I'm almost back on track. How do you do those little trackers at the end of your signature? I can't work it out, but I'm two glasses of wine in, so I could be being slow  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 13, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
http://nanowrimo.org/widgets
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 13, 2015, 05:07:25 PM
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 14, 2015, 07:14:17 AM
Well, Catherine complained that yesterday's song was too intense. Maybe this will be a little lighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9TS9o6mF6I
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 14, 2015, 08:18:53 AM
It's great to see you're all still hanging in there.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 14, 2015, 08:56:26 AM
It's great to see you're all still hanging in there.

For now, but we haven't even got to the most difficult part.

Also, I'm concerned that Anders may have dropped off the pace.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 14, 2015, 01:27:52 PM
Yay, I should reach 25 k tomorrow. Feeling a bit worried though that my good ideas are all behind me. Any advice from you seasoned nanoers? :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 14, 2015, 02:30:30 PM
just keep writing.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 14, 2015, 03:08:10 PM
Yay, I should reach 25 k tomorrow. Feeling a bit worried though that my good ideas are all behind me. Any advice from you seasoned nanoers? :)

Start asking yourself and/or your characters "What if" questions.

Example:

What if  . . .
if rains on the day of the picnic?

if the car brakes fail when you're coming to the curve near the clear?

if (character name) gets killed?

Make up questions to fit your story. Play around with the characters. You never know what might happen.

Or, if you have (or can imagine) a sequel, start writing it.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 14, 2015, 07:09:59 PM
I seem to have had some sort of nervous breakdown that is making me write non-stop.


That's a good thing, right?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 14, 2015, 07:58:08 PM
As long as it doesn't make you seriously ill...  Yes.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 14, 2015, 08:28:35 PM
Well, let's hope it doesn't.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 15, 2015, 02:23:55 AM
Start asking yourself and/or your characters "What if" questions.

Example:

What if  . . .
if rains on the day of the picnic?

if the car brakes fail when you're coming to the curve near the clear?

if (character name) gets killed?

Make up questions to fit your story. Play around with the characters. You never know what might happen.

Or, if you have (or can imagine) a sequel, start writing it.

Thanks, Alice. Will try!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 15, 2015, 06:21:19 AM
For Mary Ruth, and anyone else who feels their best ideas are probably behind them.

Don't stop with the first answer to a 'what if?' question  A lot of readers will do that and maybe have the same thoughts as you.  Ask a second or third one, maybe even more.

These subsequent questions are more along the line of 'what then?'.

The car has a brake failure on a steep mountain descent.  Not good, obviously, but what then?

Can you scrape the car against a rock wall to slow it?  Can you get the impact angle steep enough to give plenty of drag, but shallow enough avoid a bad bounce which will send your car spinning out of control?  Can you deliberately ram a vehicle in front to help kill your speed?  Is the vehicle in front hefty enough to be useful for this?  If it's a smaller or equal sized car quite possibly not.  A lorry might be better, but you may jam your car underneath and kill yourself anyway.  Would your character be willing to risk this possibility rather than definitely crashing over an edge a bit further down?  Is it plausible that your character could go over the edge and survive hitting water below?  Or perhaps jump and roll and let the car go?  (If the latter are they alone in the car, or do they sacrifice their passengers?  Or sacrifice themselves to give the passengers time to jump?)  If travelling in convoy with friends could or would they be capable of forming a 'rolling roadblock' and helping you?

The list is endless.  One bad decision by your character may open up another whole range of options.  Possibly increasingly desperate, but still plausible.

The thing to remember is that you - as the writer - have time to think through these options and pick the ones which best suit your tale.  The character may appear to make an instant decision, desperate or coldly logical, but you have time to think through the what if and what then permutations.

The result, successful or not, will then be in the hands of the character and not the 'hand of God'.

Gyppo  

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 15, 2015, 08:54:28 AM
This is more excellent advice.

You do seem to save up all your best advice for Wrimos.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 15, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
For Mary Ruth, and anyone else who feels their best ideas are probably behind them.

Don't stop with the first answer to a 'what if?' question  A lot of readers will do that and maybe have the same thoughts as you.  Ask a second or third one, maybe even more.

These subsequent questions are more along the line of 'what then?'.

The car has a brake failure on a steep mountain descent.  Not good, obviously, but what then?

Can you scrape the car against a rock wall to slow it?  Can you get the impact angle steep enough to give plenty of drag, but shallow enough avoid a bad bounce which will send your car spinning out of control?  Can you deliberately ram a vehicle in front to help kill your speed?  Is the vehicle in front hefty enough to be useful for this?  If it's a smaller or equal sized car quite possibly not.  A lorry might be better, but you may jam your car underneath and kill yourself anyway.  Would your character be willing to risk this possibility rather than definitely crashing over an edge a bit further down?  Is it plausible that your character could go over the edge and survive hitting water below?  Or perhaps jump and roll and let the car go?  (If the latter are they alone in the car, or do they sacrifice their passengers?  Or sacrifice themselves to give the passengers time to jump?)  If travelling in convoy with friends could or would they be capable of forming a 'rolling roadblock' and helping you?

The list is endless.  One bad decision by your character may open up another whole range of options.  Possibly increasingly desperate, but still plausible.

The thing to remember is that you - as the writer - have time to think through these options and pick the ones which best suit your tale.  The character may appear to make an instant decision, desperate or coldly logical, but you have time to think through the what if and what then permutations.

The result, successful or not, will then be in the hands of the character and not the 'hand of God'.


Thanks, Gyppo. Really helpful. Will push on through..  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 15, 2015, 09:05:43 AM
You can do it.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 15, 2015, 09:06:53 AM
You can do it.

Thanks, Ollie.. I'm trying to follow your fine example.. not quite caught up with you yet though!  ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 15, 2015, 09:42:31 AM
This is more excellent advice.

You do seem to save up all your best advice for Wrimos.

It's probably because the questions asked, or sometimes just implied, are more specific during Nano, and therefore easier to answer than a general 'What's the best way to write...'
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 15, 2015, 09:52:09 AM
Really, I always thought it was because you have a lot of affection for the kind of maniacs that would put themselves through nano.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 15, 2015, 10:12:30 AM
Guess what? My suggestion of using "What if" questions yesterday helped me answer one of my own problems with a couple of characters.  ;D

Opened up a whole new kettle of trouble to drop them into. Trouble they were asking for by their own actions I might add.  :o

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 15, 2015, 10:26:41 AM
Really, I always thought it was because you have a lot of affection for the kind of maniacs that would put themselves through nano.

There is that as well.

One's the cause and the other is the effect ;-)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 15, 2015, 10:29:13 AM
Guess what? My suggestion of using "What if" questions yesterday helped me answer one of my own problems with a couple of characters.  ;D

Opened up a whole new kettle of trouble to drop them into. Trouble they were asking for by their own actions I might add.  :o

Alice,  sometimes it's like turning a magic key, isn't it?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 15, 2015, 11:08:16 AM
Alice,  sometimes it's like turning a magic key, isn't it?

Exactly. And in this case it was due to a waiter in a restaurant over hearing his customers a critical  part of their conversation. The characters' ego plays a big part in it as well.  ::)

Sometimes we overlook some of the tips we've heard/read about this writing game . . . until someone else asks a question. That's what is so great about supporting each other right here. We never know when  exactly the thing will be said/read to start the wheels turning in the right direction.

Guys and gals, I'm far behind the rest of you. In big part thanks to back muscles giving me fits to the point that I have to lay down flat and I've yet to figure out a way to deal in a key board while I'm in a prone position. But I'm enjoying keeping up with this thread and seeing so many of you plowing ahead with your NaNo stories.

Remember the little engine? "I think I can . . . I think I can."
It's an oldey but goodie. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2UsNRpH09w

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 15, 2015, 12:18:06 PM
Anders has dropped out of pace, I admit. Life creeped up on me in a most unagreeable fashion. I offer no excuses, just wait and see me shine. I will be glorious.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 15, 2015, 03:52:21 PM
Anders has dropped out of pace, I admit. Life creeped up on me in a most unagreeable fashion. I offer no excuses, just wait and see me shine. I will be glorious.

Yet you're still ahead of me...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 15, 2015, 03:54:28 PM
It is not the wc, it is the quality that counts ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 15, 2015, 04:02:08 PM
Made it to 25,000. So happy.. It's downhill all the way now (yeah, right.. )
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 15, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
Quote
Guys and gals, I'm far behind the rest of you. In big part thanks to back muscles giving me fits to the point that I have to lay down flat and I've yet to figure out a way to deal in a key board while I'm in a prone position.

Alice, oh I do know what you mean!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 15, 2015, 04:04:15 PM
Made it to 25,000. So happy.. It's downhill all the way now (yeah, right.. )

Yeeehah!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 15, 2015, 04:07:46 PM
And boom. Downhill we go.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 15, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
Aha, well, you can write at quite a scary pace when you put your mind to it.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 15, 2015, 04:16:43 PM
I've made it to 25k too! I'm pretty pleased and amazed with that  :)

Two more weeks of writing you say? :o
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 15, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
Had to take my mind off things. Life is becoming really scary right now and honestly, I contemplated if I should even continue writing. But, and that's kinda important, there's nothing else I can do about my life being scary. So I might as well write.

Fun story: when some troubles broke out in my country, years and years ago, the first thing my mum did was make tea. So in the spirit of keeping a stiff upper lip, I make tea and write.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 15, 2015, 04:25:30 PM
Had to take my mind off things. Life is becoming really scary right now and honestly, I contemplated if I should even continue writing. But, and that's kinda important, there's nothing else I can do about my life being scary. So I might as well write.

Fun story: when some troubles broke out in my country, years and years ago, the first thing my mum did was make tea. So in the spirit of keeping a stiff upper lip, I make tea and write.

I totally relate to what you say. I did not have the heart to write this week-end either, but it does take one's mind off things, and there's nothing else to be done...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 15, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
I totally relate to what you say. I did not have the heart to write this week-end either, but it does take one's mind off things, and there's nothing else to be done...

Really awful. I hope you're nowhere near Paris, Catherine & Anders?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 15, 2015, 05:39:07 PM


Not near Paris but so sad  :'(  
...no words
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 16, 2015, 02:06:20 AM
Not near Paris, but have no words either. Thankfully, all my French friends are safe.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 16, 2015, 06:21:26 PM
Catherine and Anders.  Are you still in the game?

Don't let real life kill the alternative world in your heads.  Stopping writing will make no difference to what has happened.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 16, 2015, 06:32:02 PM
It's times like this when we need our creative types to step up and get typing. The world needs people creating.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 17, 2015, 12:33:34 AM
It's times like this when we need our creative types to step up and get typing. The world needs people creating.
Catherine and Anders.  Are you still in the game?

Don't let real life kill the alternative world in your heads.  Stopping writing will make no difference to what has happened.

Gyppo

Thanks both for your support. I totally agree with you. Writing does help to keep mind off worries.

Unfortunately some kind of pretty nasty tendinitis due to too much typing  got hold of my arm, from shoulder to fingers, and the second one's getting stiff too. So I went for a complete day off writing yesterday. I'll have to slow down I'm afraid, and my wc will suffer from it. But I'll stay in the race till the end. If I don't hit 50k in time, I'll take two more weeks, but I'll make it: MC is counting on me  :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 17, 2015, 12:54:24 AM
Tendinitis can (and often is) be a real tear bummer. Sorry you're having to deal with it at this time especially.

The first and worse go round I had with tendinitis was during a time I had to do a good bit of writing daily for my job. Since I'm right handed, that hand and on up to the elbow was effected. I couldn't even grip a pen, let alone write with it.

I did a really poor job (at twice the time) using my left hand. It was readable, but looked like a first grader's efforts.

If you have a hand held record, what not talk to it, recording what you would have been writing were you able to. At least you will have a record of it and can write it when you're more comfortable doing so.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 17, 2015, 01:28:49 AM
Being hurt is one of the few excuses that I'll accept.

Mostly because one of my nano efforts ended at 40,000 words with me on the floor crying in agony.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 17, 2015, 01:56:27 AM
Anyway, I'll do my best...but I don't want to end up crippled for weeks! Especially since I also need to write at work  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 17, 2015, 01:58:07 AM
Being hurt is one of the few excuses that I'll accept.

Mostly because one of my nano efforts ended at 40,000 words with me on the floor crying in agony.

I'd love to know what other excuses you'd accept  ;) ( for next year  :D )
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 17, 2015, 04:54:38 AM
Pain is a good reason to slow down or even stop for a while, rather than an excuse.  Glad to hear you still want to finish your story, even if it means writing on past the end of November.

Look after yourself.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 17, 2015, 05:05:50 AM
Take care Catherine: the story will still be there after November 30  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 17, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
Hmm, another song. Make sure you have captions on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S0Yewc0sz0
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 17, 2015, 04:12:04 PM
I am still alive despite my body's constant efforts to do otherwise! I am also still writing, albeit a bit slower. But, weekend is coming (shutup, Tuesday is totally almost the weekend) and I pledge to write 5k extra for the weekend.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 17, 2015, 04:21:20 PM
Hang on in there.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 17, 2015, 04:30:36 PM
Aw man, rivals can be such a pain.

Some guy was bragging on the forum that he had just overtaken me so I wrote four thousand words.

Now, he's only a thousand behind again.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 17, 2015, 04:33:16 PM
If you need a bit of encouragement about what can happen when you take part in NaNo, read SallyJ's post here and click the kobo link and read her post there:

http://mywriterscircle.com/index.php?topic=58761.0




Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 17, 2015, 04:48:34 PM
Hm, 10k behind Ollie... I'll have to break out the strong coffee  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 17, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
Aw man, rivals can be such a pain.

Some guy was bragging on the forum that he had just overtaken me so I wrote four thousand words.

Now, he's only a thousand behind again.

WHAT'S YOUR SECRET  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 17, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
WHAT'S YOUR SECRET  ??? ??? ??? ???

I sit down and write.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 17, 2015, 06:08:09 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 17, 2015, 06:45:36 PM
Ollie's right.  Sometimes it is as simple as 1,2,3.

1:  Bum on chair.
2:  Fingers on keys.
3:  Write.

Let the doubts and fears fall away. Leave them outside your temporary charmed circle where the words in your head tumble down your arms, flow through your fingers, and appear on the screen.

We can all come up with excuses, reasons, even just wild fancies for not writing.  We are writers, we have powerful imaginations.  The same mental process which can craft a powerful and soaring tale can just as easily craft a deadly block.  But the longer you sit staring at a block the bigger it gets.

Just as your word count gets bigger if you sit and work at your craft.

The secret is tell yourself the story, even it's being as slippery and elusive as an eel in a dark pool, is big enough to crush any barriers.

A major part of Nano is learning to trust yourself.  In a few years time you'll be able to work happily alongside your Internal Editor instead of locking it away for a month.  That's a feeling worth working towards.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 17, 2015, 07:10:51 PM
Sometimes you don't even have to write anything that makes sense to make good progress.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 18, 2015, 07:53:10 PM
I'm nearly in the danger zone.

That forty is so close and tempting.

Also, I wrote a Pep Talk on the Nano Forums. You can read it here.
http://nanowrimo.org/forums/reaching-50-000/threads/276482
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 18, 2015, 08:00:14 PM
Good words, Young Jedi.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 19, 2015, 01:57:10 AM
Good words, Young Jedi.

Gyppo's very right : well said Oliver. And may the force be with us  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 19, 2015, 06:39:39 AM
Well, I'm sure you all need another song to get that enthusiasm going this morning.

For once, it's not from anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzQ3eBerHfM
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 19, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
Okay, how's everyone doing?

Also, I have big plans for Sunday. I hope you'll all give it a whirl. It could just be the push you need.
http://nanowrimo.org/forum_comments/5783065
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 19, 2015, 07:01:58 PM
Great pep talk That(yoda)ollie! Thanks for that  :-*

And I just passed the 25000 mark!  ;D

I wish I had the pace I have now in the beginning  ::) But if I can manage to keep my daily word count over 2000 I'll make it!

I'm feeling a bit lost in the story though, the thing has strayed far, far away from where I wanted it. Also having trouble with plot holes, absence of proper setting and I'm now realizing I have a great cast of women but (besides a nice little boy) all the men are scum. I wish there was a way to introduce a new important male character without making a bigger mess of what I already wrote.

Oh, and if anyone asks what the story is about, I have no idea what to answer. Is that normal master Thatollie?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 19, 2015, 07:05:58 PM
It's normal for me, I still have no idea what my novel supposed to be about. But, I just keep going because that's how I'm going to learn what it's about... hopefully.

Also, I was having a completely opposite problem to you. Most of my characters aren't as bad as they're supposed to be. I fixed that by having some of the nice ones do bad stuff. You could fix yours by having someone perform a heel-face-turn (that's when a bad guy does something that redeems them like Darth Vader). That would give your story more balance.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 19, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
Oh, a light bulb just lit up! That's a great suggestion, thanks! I even have a couple of mean fathers. At least one of them can still be saved  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 19, 2015, 07:15:58 PM
Why do we write mean fathers?

I wrote a very mean father.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 20, 2015, 03:08:54 AM
Just made it to 30k. Still trying (desperately) to keep up with Ollie but failing miserably! Work has kind of taken over. Still, there's always the weekend!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Mrs N on November 20, 2015, 04:42:40 AM
Wow, Ollie, you're bloody inspiring, and I'm not even nano- ing! 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 20, 2015, 04:49:01 AM
Just made it to 30k. Still trying (desperately) to keep up with Ollie but failing miserably! Work has kind of taken over. Still, there's always the weekend!

What you need is a load of words in one day.
http://nanowrimo.org/forum_comments/5783065

Wow, Ollie, you're bloody inspiring, and I'm not even nano- ing! 8) 8) 8)

heh, maybe so. But I think I've melted my brain by writing too much.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 20, 2015, 06:22:09 AM
I'm on 31k, so just about on track. I hope I can keep going. I too have no idea what I've written, but there are words and more of them than I've ever seen on paper produced by me, so I'm feeling pretty pleased about that.

Ollie, do you carry on writing after you get to 50k? You're going to read the target by Sunday at this rate and get a week off!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 20, 2015, 06:26:19 AM
What you need is a load of words in one day.
http://nanowrimo.org/forum_comments/5783065


Thanks, Ollie. Will definitely try!  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 20, 2015, 06:37:03 AM
Seven thousand words in one day?   :o now that is a target. I think my highest is about 3k. I will try and beat that.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 20, 2015, 07:02:31 AM
I once wrote 14,000 words in a day, (a long day), on a manual typewriter.  Over thirty years ago now.  I almost had to peel myself off the chair afterwards.  But at the time the story simply wouldn't let me go.  I paid for it in aches and pains over the next few days, but younger bodies recover faster.  

Maybe this is why these days I stress being comfortable, and short walking around breaks, as an aid to endurance.  (It really does make a massive difference.)

I've never come close to that total with a word processor, but maybe that's because I'm older and a little bit wiser these days.  But there is something incredibly seductive about writing mania when it takes a grip.

I like Ollie's idea about 'break the limit' day.  It goes well with the Nano ethos of finding out just what you can do.  Not only mentally, but physically.  It's all part of learning when to trust yourself and when to rein yourself in at times.  Outside motivation, like completing Nano, is useful, but self-knowledge is a tool beyond price.

=====

This is also a good time to start thinking what reward you're going to allow yourself for completing.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 20, 2015, 07:21:39 PM
I'm on 31k, so just about on track. I hope I can keep going. I too have no idea what I've written, but there are words and more of them than I've ever seen on paper produced by me, so I'm feeling pretty pleased about that.

Ollie, do you carry on writing after you get to 50k? You're going to read the target by Sunday at this rate and get a week off!

I'm going to carry on... hopefully. I was going to carry on after reaching 50K the first time I won nano but then I was just so happy about winning and so damn tired that I didn't. I'd like to though, because I want to finish the damn novel and that'll take more than 50K.

I've never come close to that total with a word processor, but maybe that's because I'm older and a little bit wiser these days.  But there is something incredibly seductive about writing mania when it takes a grip.

I like Ollie's idea about 'break the limit' day.  It goes well with the Nano ethos of finding out just what you can do.  Not only mentally, but physically.  It's all part of learning when to trust yourself and when to rein yourself in at times.  Outside motivation, like completing Nano, is useful, but self-knowledge is a tool beyond price.

=====

This is also a good time to start thinking what reward you're going to allow yourself for completing.

Gyppo

That's part of the reason why I'm doing it, not for myself because seven thousand is pretty good anyway, but for the others who are going to give it a try. However, I can't just declare something and then not do it myself so I'm basically punishing myself. The other part is to give people who might be a little bit behind a challenge that may help them get back on track, but don't tell anyone because it's a secret.

Also, I have already begun to reward myself.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 21, 2015, 12:20:57 AM
20 days and 5 hours.

New Personal Best
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 21, 2015, 02:11:32 AM
20 days and 5 hours.

New Personal Best

Congratulations!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 21, 2015, 04:09:11 AM
20 days and 5 hours.

New Personal Best

BRAVOBRAVOBRAVOBRAVOBRAVOBRAVOBRAVOBRAVOBRAVOBRAVO
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 21, 2015, 04:40:45 AM
Well done, Ollie.

I thought you'd crack it this year.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 21, 2015, 05:20:41 AM
Well done, Ollie, you're rocking this :)
And now, to glue myself onna chair and crunch at those words to avoid the disapproving stare.

Also, got a reward already in mind, so now I have to work superhard to deserve it.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 21, 2015, 06:59:38 AM
It's still do-able, if you press on ;-)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 21, 2015, 07:02:55 AM
I am a leaf on the wind, watch me soar.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 21, 2015, 07:27:05 AM
We will, with great interest.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 21, 2015, 07:35:43 AM
We will, with great interest.

I'll stand with Gyppo on the side of the road watching  ;D I'll keep on writing for Nano but no hope of catching up, I won't manage more than a few hundreds a day...too much pain ! ::)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 21, 2015, 07:47:11 AM
Catherine, I am hereby extending Nano for you onto December. I'm calling it NaNoWriTmo. I'll be cheering you on.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 21, 2015, 08:33:25 AM
Yes, I hope you are better soon Catherine. Keep going, you will write the story!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 21, 2015, 09:44:08 AM
Thank you ladies  8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 21, 2015, 10:09:34 AM
30k. 5 more, but I'm starting to have my doubts about catching up today. No matter, at least I finally figured out what exactly will happen and am hoping for smooth-ish sailing.

Also, it started snowing. Nothing quite like sitting inside with a cup of tea while the world around you takes up the winter fashion.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 21, 2015, 11:13:28 AM
5,087 words today. Now, off to see a man about a dragon.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 21, 2015, 11:34:55 AM
5,087 words today. Now, off to see a man about a dragon.

over 5 000 words ! Amazing.... A dragon ? Incredible... :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 21, 2015, 12:01:40 PM
5,087 words today. Now, off to see a man about a dragon.

I hope the dragon is a friend.  :D

I have a few dragon friend, one of them more than a friend actually. I hope your experience with them is as rewarding.  8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 21, 2015, 03:04:46 PM
Heh heh, I emerged from last night's writing session pale, sweaty, half insane and drunk on victory.

And now I really need to get back to work. My novel isn't even close to being done yet.

This winners' circle is a pretty sweet place. Some of you should join me here. The view is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 21, 2015, 10:19:04 PM
I just realized that I didn't post a song to celebrate winning with. Also, I'm sure someone needs something to help them get going.

Umm, this video has confetti in it. That's celebratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLCG-5-cCGk
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Laura H on November 21, 2015, 10:47:43 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Annmarie on November 22, 2015, 07:02:42 AM
Hat off to you, Ollie, and with 8 days left! Brownies for you if you can make it 70,000 by Nov 30.  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 22, 2015, 07:28:44 AM
Ollie congrats! What a wonderful feeling it must be :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 22, 2015, 01:08:30 PM
Ollie congrats! What a wonderful feeling it must be :)

Well, there's only one way to find out.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 22, 2015, 03:08:06 PM
Very true, Ollie.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 22, 2015, 05:05:08 PM
Congratulations Thatollie!!! You did amazingly well  :o

I'm losing my Nanohopes, after unexpectedly having to work through the weekend (and it was a HARD weekend) I came home today to find my 1,5 year old burning in fever  :-\ I was going to have two days off this week and I was determined to catch up then, but I don't see that happening now...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 22, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
Congratulations Thatollie!!! You did amazingly well  :o

I'm losing my Nanohopes, after unexpectedly having to work through the weekend (and it was a HARD weekend) I came home today to find my 1,5 year old burning in fever  :-\ I was going to have two days off this week and I was determined to catch up then, but I don't see that happening now...

Shadow, such things happen and can't be helped. But the good news is, you have a great start on your story and can continue working on it when your little one is well again and you have time without feeling rushed.

So count that as a win because you now have more than you did Nov. 1st.

 
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 22, 2015, 05:26:11 PM
You can't write at your best when you're worried about your kids.  So follow your heart and not your dreams.  As Alice says, you can come back to the story later.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 23, 2015, 05:30:25 AM
Alice and Gyppo, yes, you're both very right. I'm on my way to work after two hours of sleep. My head's nearly exploding, I couldn't write if I tried. But now I know just how much I can write if I put my mind to it, next year I'll be unstoppable! I think I'll try to finish this story until the end of december and then, since I found out I can write 2000 words in a work day, I think I'll try to write a story each week. It seems reasonable  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 23, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
Congratulations Thatollie!!! You did amazingly well  :o

I'm losing my Nanohopes, after unexpectedly having to work through the weekend (and it was a HARD weekend) I came home today to find my 1,5 year old burning in fever  :-\ I was going to have two days off this week and I was determined to catch up then, but I don't see that happening now...

I won't catch up either... I have to stop typing for quite a while if I want to keep my job: can't hold my pen properly to write in class, or lift my arm to write on blackboard  :'(

hope baby is feeling better....
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 23, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
Shadow and Catherine, you are still heroes. Your novels will be great for it and you are amazing people for doing so well under pressure.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 23, 2015, 02:21:34 PM
Yes, many congratulations, Ollie! I'm hoping to break 40k tonight.. Everyone else, good luck too!  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 23, 2015, 02:33:41 PM
I'm still reading and cheering the bunch of you on - just doing it from the sidelines now.

Still working on my novel, but have accepted the fact I'll not be making the 50,000 words by the end of the month. Simply too many things taking me away from the computer and writing on this piece as I had thought I would be able to do.

So proud of those of you still hanging in there and heading for that finish line.

Hint, it helps to look at how far you've come once you pass the half way mark rather than how far ahead the goal line is.  ;)

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 23, 2015, 03:16:15 PM
Shadow and Catherine, you are still heroes. Your novels will be great for it and you are amazing people for doing so well under pressure.

Thank you so much for that Anders! You do have a way with words ;)

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 23, 2015, 03:32:08 PM
I just wished those words came so easily when writing ;) Still, I'm only 700 words away from my daily goal, which is a big yay. I might even write a bit more today, I'm really seeing how the rest of the story will play out right now. That's a first, by the by :D I blame Ollie for being such a role model.

(I hesitate to say inspiration, because I detest the word immensely)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 23, 2015, 04:21:01 PM
I blame Ollie for being such a role model.

(I hesitate to say inspiration, because I detest the word immensely)

I'll say it for you : he is an inspiring guy  ;) He has a way to motivate one...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Mrs N on November 23, 2015, 04:26:35 PM
20 days and 5 hours.
New Personal Best

Just seen this. Many congratulations. Great achievement. 8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 25, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
How is everyone doing? :) I am fuelling my muse with some mulled wine tonight.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 25, 2015, 04:53:34 PM
To those of you who are still in this thing;

fantastic, get back to work.



I should probably go write as well. It's been like four days since I wrote anything.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 25, 2015, 05:19:19 PM
You deserve the rest, Ollie.


Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 25, 2015, 05:35:29 PM
You deserve the rest, Ollie.




No, I don't.

I could easily have been writing on all of those days and didn't.

Writing just so happens to be the only way to be a writer, and I'd very much like to be one.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 25, 2015, 05:41:33 PM
You have a point, of course. And with your dedication I also think you will succeed.
But also, you are still allowed to rest, regenerate and find something to write about.
Of course, everyone is their own worst drill sergeant.

Now, I will go back to writing in hopes of nearing Ollie's dedication.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 25, 2015, 05:42:48 PM
You have a point, of course. And with your dedication I also think you will succeed.
But also, you are still allowed to rest, regenerate and find something to write about.
Of course, everyone is their own worst drill sergeant.

Now, I will go back to writing in hopes of nearing Ollie's dedication.

I am terrible at getting myself to write, but I'm trying to break the habit and actually start the whole write every day thing going.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Mrs N on November 25, 2015, 05:49:28 PM
Writing just so happens to be the only way to be a writer, and I'd very much like to be one.

I'm going to use this line when I'm being a lazy git. It sort of says it all! ;)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 25, 2015, 06:15:41 PM
I'm going to use this line when I'm being a lazy git. It sort of says it all! ;)

I am incredibly lazy, it's how I have so much time to think up lines like that.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 26, 2015, 02:14:46 AM
How is everyone doing? :) I am fuelling my muse with some mulled wine tonight.

You're doing great! You're nearly there  8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 26, 2015, 12:02:42 PM
You've all been doing splendidly.

Which is a good excuse to tell you about NaNoFinMo.

Even those who reach 50,000 words may not have completed their novels, so the good folks over at Nano want you to finish your first drafts in December.

There is also NaNoEdMos in Jan and Feb for you to edit them. And you get to be told by me to get back to work! Isn't that exciting?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 26, 2015, 02:10:29 PM
Am I a total loser for finding this a really exciting prospect?

Perhaps I have a leetle masochist in me...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 26, 2015, 02:14:08 PM
Am I a total loser for finding this a really exciting prospect?

Perhaps I have a leetle masochist in me...

I'll be honest, masochism is part of the reason why I continue to be a writer.

And who wouldn't be excited about having me tell them to get back to work for four whole consecutive months?

Also, get back to work.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 26, 2015, 02:22:06 PM
Yes, Master  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 26, 2015, 03:28:24 PM
It looks as if I can step back from my advising and ass-kicking duties and leave it all to Ollie ;-)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 26, 2015, 03:41:51 PM
It looks as if I can step back from my advising and ass-kicking duties and leave it all to Ollie ;-)

Well, I can't be everywhere at once. I also have jobseeking responsibilities to attend to for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 26, 2015, 04:06:42 PM
Don't worry, I'll still keep an eye out for those who need it ;-)

Good luck with the job search.  Seriously.  What was it they used to tell us at Job Club?  Oh yes, finding a job is a full-time job in itself.  They didn't seem to appreciate the suggestion that if we were doing a full time job - by their own criteria - we should get paid a proper wage for it rather than just Jobseeker's Allowance.

What was the other fun quote?  It's easier to find a job when you already have one.  It's also easy to lose the job you already have if your employer finds you're looking around.  "If you're not happy here then here's a week's pay in lieu of notice.  I don't want unhappy workers."

Apparently there's laws to stop them discriminating against you in this way, but the best way to get yourself a reputation as 'unemployable' is to try and invoke these laws.

And once you've established your reputation as a 'seasonal worker' the full-time bosses don't want you because "You're likely to go running off as soon as your favourite job comes around again."

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 29, 2015, 01:30:07 AM
Yay! I did it.. What a great feeling.. Thanks for all the support on here  :) Onward!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 29, 2015, 01:31:12 AM
Congratulations.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 29, 2015, 01:37:00 AM
Congratulations.

Thanks, Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 02:07:36 AM
Yay! I did it.. What a great feeling.. Thanks for all the support on here  :) Onward!

Hip hip! Hurray! That's grand. You can be proud  8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 02:34:52 AM
Well done! That's amazing.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 29, 2015, 03:46:24 AM
Thanks Catherine & RR. How ru getting on with it?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 03:53:51 AM
I'm almost there: 3,200 words to go, but I'm finding this last stretch really hard. The story is basically done, so I need to expand some sections where I've rushed through them. Fingers crossed…

Hope your tendinitis is improving Catherine.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on November 29, 2015, 03:57:57 AM
I'm almost there: 3,200 words to go, but I'm finding this last stretch really hard. The story is basically done, so I need to expand some sections where I've rushed through them. Fingers crossed…

Hope your tendinitis is improving Catherine.

The last part is the hardest, I know! Keep going! I wrote the last thousand at 3 am.. Still have a lot to do though but that can wait a few weeks.. Good luck  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 04:43:20 AM
I'm almost there: 3,200 words to go, but I'm finding this last stretch really hard. The story is basically done, so I need to expand some sections where I've rushed through them. Fingers crossed…

Hope your tendinitis is improving Catherine.

Keep up with your efforts Kate! You are so close now. I'm sure you are exhausted, but you are going to make it! When it's too hard, just imagine how great you'll feel when you hit the 50000th word down on the keyboard :D It'll be such a great moment. Go on a little bit more, you're nearly there...I'm pushing you from here, does it help?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 04:45:34 AM
Also remember  a few months back, when we were writing on our online course, right at the begining: you'd never have thought you could/would do this , think of how you've progressed since then.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 06:45:50 AM
Keep up with your efforts Kate! You are so close now. I'm sure you are exhausted, but you are going to make it! When it's too hard, just imagine how great you'll feel when you hit the 50000th word down on the keyboard :D It'll be such a great moment. Go on a little bit more, you're nearly there...I'm pushing you from here, does it help?

The temptation will be to finish mid-sentence  ;D Any kind of pushing helps! Thank you. You and all this thread have been such great support.

And you're quite right, I had no idea it was possible to write this many words, especially not in one month. It'll be interesting to read them back sometime and see what words they were!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 29, 2015, 07:28:43 AM
RR:  Keep at it,  You're too close not to cross the finishing line now.

But allow yourself a few extra words, because the wordcount on your processor may not agree exactly with that used by Nano's verifier.

If you find yourself really stuck towards the end you can 'cheat' a little by adding in a character list, with brief descriptions of each (Both physical description and motivation), or a synopsis of what you remember writing.  It's all related to the story, so it can legitimately count towards the total.  You can easily find another thousand or so by doing this.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 07:33:28 AM
Thanks Gyppo. It would be very annoying to end 2k short of 50k!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 29, 2015, 07:51:44 AM
Come on. This is what I like to see.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 08:04:00 AM

But allow yourself a few extra words, because the wordcount on your processor may not agree exactly with that used by Nano's verifier.

If you find yourself really stuck towards the end you can 'cheat' a little by adding in a character list, with brief descriptions of each (Both physical description and motivation), or a synopsis of what you remember writing.  It's all related to the story, so it can legitimately count towards the total.  You can easily find another thousand or so by doing this.

Gyppo

Gyppo is very right here : I've got a few HUNDRED words difference between my wordcount and Nano's, which makes quite a difference!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 09:16:04 AM
Right, I'm still short of the 50k, but I'm going to check it now… don't want to head for the wrong number!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 09:23:22 AM
Phew! I've checked, and it's given me 100 words more than Word thinks I have!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 29, 2015, 09:30:41 AM
That's handy.  So when you think you're close, verify anyway.  Once you get into the last day a lot of people are verifying during the last few hours and things get a bit congested.  It would be a total bummer to have enough and then lose out just because things were too crowded.  Yes, you'd know, but you wouldn't get that little certificate to print out and pin on the wall. 

If you think you're there, check as soon as possible.  If it isn't enough, rattle off a few more words. 
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 09:32:53 AM
Good call Gyppo. I've got 1500 to go now: I'm really going to try and finish it tonight...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 09:40:00 AM
Phew! I've checked, and it's given me 100 words more than Word thinks I have!

Word is much kinder to Nanowriters than Open Office!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 29, 2015, 09:47:47 AM
Word is much kinder to Nanowriters than Open Office!

And that is why I use Word.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 29, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
Back in the typewriter days we used to count the words physically.  Work out an average for words per line, based over a few paragraphs, then turn this into words per average page.  It was also handy to have a half page and quarter page average for a quick 'ready reckoner'.

It was surprising how accurate this could be.

Word is much kinder to Nanowriters than Open Office!

Perhaps word allows for the white space at the end of short lines of dialogue.  Which is more like 'type-fitting' than an absolute word count.  If you have a couple of pages of snappy dialogue the word count is about the same as one page of long-lined description.

Some processors count hyphenated words as one, some as two.

The longer the work the more leeway you have, plus or minus.  I remember writing magazine articles where the guidelines asked me to try and keep within ten words of the target figures, for 750 - 800 word article.  (It's not that difficult if you do it regularly and get into a mental groove.)  Novels are more forgiving.

I imagine my Jarte processor would parallel Word as it uses the same Microsoft 'engine'.

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Alice, a Country Gal on November 29, 2015, 10:06:51 AM
I am so proud of all of you who have continued and are now within grasp of that grand total.

Would it help any if I mention that my son, R.L. Copple, used his NaNo wins after editing of course, turning them into published books? 

Mentioned that because some wonder if others NaNo members have books to show for their efforts. They do. Rick is just the one I know personally that have done so. There are many others out there.

I second Gyppo's advise about writing more words than you think you need to cross the line. Besides, more words are not wasted even if the vanish as you edit later.  8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 10:25:52 AM
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Some processors count hyphenated words as one, some as two.

Also I wrote in french this time, so lots of hyphens and apostrophes, it might explain the big wc difference. Nano wc based on english only I expect.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 29, 2015, 01:47:22 PM
Aha...ahaha....ahahaha...ahahahahahhahahahahahahaaaaa!
Ow. My behind hurts. I will never, never, ever, let myself fall behind ever again. Ollie, your way is much better.

Also, congrats to Rose for finishing :) And wow, Alice, novelling runs in the family, does it?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 02:30:22 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH !!!! BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO ! HipHIp Hooray!

This is so unexpected! I thought you had disappeared in the the depth of the Internet...I did not trust you enough... I doubted....
But you did it ! :D you are wonderful! We're proud of you (plus you took time to manage your challenge 8) )

Well tonight you can sleep tight and proud.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 29, 2015, 02:32:04 PM
I disappeared into the depth of my wordprocessor  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 02:34:54 PM
I disappeared into the depth of my wordprocessor  ;D

Was there enough oxygen? Did you have food or had to grow your own (cf The Martian  :P )
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 29, 2015, 02:36:09 PM
I sustained myself with leftover RAM  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 02:41:48 PM
Wow! Well done Anders, that's a great catch up. I'm not quite there yet: seven hundred words to go…

I've actually just finished reading the Martian. I enjoyed it, although I did feel slightly like I'd been hit round the head with a physics lesson by the time I'd finished it  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
I sustained myself with leftover RAM  ;D

Any chocolate in it? Otherwise useless (unless some white wine ;D)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 02:46:49 PM
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I'm not quite there yet: seven hundred words to go…

I'd write the 700 tonight, to be on the safe side... Then I'd rest  :D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 29, 2015, 02:49:56 PM
I second Catherine, Rose, better safe than sorry.
Wanna race? :D My novel's not done yet...
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 29, 2015, 02:55:59 PM
I'd write the 700 tonight, to be on the safe side... Then I'd rest  :D

And I'd recommend writing 1000 words because you could get trolled by the word counter.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
With all these good recommandations, go write, quick: kids in bed, husband in front of TV, and write these 1000 words!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
With all these good recommandations, go write, quick: kids in bed, husband in front of TV, and write these 1000 words!

Spookily, that's pretty much what my house looks like right now. Are you here somewhere?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 29, 2015, 03:23:29 PM
Congratulations to Anders, who quietly beavered away in the background and made it happen ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 03:26:32 PM
Spookily, that's pretty much what my house looks like right now. Are you here somewhere?

Don't look, just behind you ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 03:41:31 PM
YIKES!! I DID IT… WOO HOO 8)

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 29, 2015, 03:45:13 PM
All verified as well?
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 03:47:18 PM
It is: 50,082 words. Which was about 50 more than Word made it, so I feel like I definitely did it!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Gyppo on November 29, 2015, 03:49:41 PM
Congratulations.

We've had a good crop of successes this year.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 29, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
Woohoo congrats Rose! What will you treat yourself with for being so awesome? :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 04:01:21 PM
YIKES!! I DID IT… WOO HOO 8)

YIPPPPPEEEEEE  !!! YOU'RE WONDERFUUUUUL !

Wish you were here and we could celebrate... Champagne  :D 8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 29, 2015, 04:12:40 PM
Champagne? Now you're talking!!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 29, 2015, 04:18:18 PM
Imagine champagne is pouring from the jug here  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 29, 2015, 04:37:55 PM
Yes, another one over the line.

Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on November 30, 2015, 05:07:36 AM
Good morning and CONGRATULATIONS Thatollie, MaryRuth, Anders and RamblingRose, you did it!!!!!

I'm really proud of my buddies! That includes you too Catherine, you made those 30000! What do you say we make a 20000 MiniNano to the end of December?

And a big thank you to coach Gyppo, your tips and support were priceless :-*
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: RamblingRose on November 30, 2015, 05:20:16 AM
Good morning and CONGRATULATIONS Thatollie, MaryRuth, Anders and RamblingRose, you did it!!!!!

I'm really proud of my buddies! That includes you too Catherine, you made those 30000! What do you say we make a 20000 MiniNano to the end of December?

And a big thank you to coach Gyppo, your tips and support were priceless :-*

30,000 words is still an amazing achievement! Keep going!!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: thatollie on November 30, 2015, 12:01:09 PM
What do you say we make a 20000 MiniNano to the end of December?


So, you're joining in with National Novel Finishing Month.

Good.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Mrs N on November 30, 2015, 01:29:40 PM
So, you're joining in with National Novel Finishing Month.
Good.

Ollie, you're a slave-driver!!!! :D :D :D

Well done all, what an incredible achievement. You are all sooper cooool 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on November 30, 2015, 03:40:08 PM
Good morning and CONGRATULATIONS Thatollie, MaryRuth, Anders and RamblingRose, you did it!!!!!

I'm really proud of my buddies! That includes you too Catherine, you made those 30000! What do you say we make a 20000 MiniNano to the end of December?

And a big thank you to coach Gyppo, your tips and support were priceless :-*

Sure, let's do that!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on November 30, 2015, 03:46:12 PM
I'd like to volunteer for that one as well, this behemoth isn't finished yet.
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on December 01, 2015, 03:02:40 AM
Good morning and CONGRATULATIONS Thatollie, MaryRuth, Anders and RamblingRose, you did it!!!!!

I'm really proud of my buddies! That includes you too Catherine, you made those 30000! What do you say we make a 20000 MiniNano to the end of December?

And a big thank you to coach Gyppo, your tips and support were priceless :-*

Thanks, Cecilia! Think it helped to have all you guys doing it at the same time. I never thought counting words could be so motivating! Hope your novel is going well. Good luck  :)
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: MaryRuth on December 01, 2015, 03:03:48 AM
I'd like to volunteer for that one as well, this behemoth isn't finished yet.

Same here! It feels as if I've just started! Trying to resist the urge to add more right now though. Need a few days off ..
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: shadowboxer on December 01, 2015, 02:55:32 PM
Woohoo! So we'll pushing each other to write, that's great  ;D

I've made a start today and I'm at about 700 words now!
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on December 01, 2015, 03:01:29 PM
Woohoo! Awesome :)

Also, I'll take this as an excuse to ask you to pleaseplease vote in the Short story submission thing :) It takes three seconds, tops! http://mywriterscircle.com/index.php?topic=58884.0  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: Catherine F on December 01, 2015, 03:40:31 PM
I put on my best hat to keep inspiration from wandering away and I'll get back to my story tomorrow....Brain's not  working tonight  ;D
Title: Re: The Grand 2015 National Novel Writing Month Thread
Post by: AndersW on December 03, 2015, 03:35:26 PM
Okay everyone, we had enough slacking, let's get down to business! :) Chop chop, off to writing!