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Title: why would a person write about his past ?
Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 10:00:47 AM
I am curious to know that if someone has traumatic past ,what will motivate him to write about it ?
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Post by: heidi52 on July 26, 2013, 10:13:25 AM
Writing can be very therapeutic, that could be motivation enough.
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Post by: wanderer on July 26, 2013, 10:17:02 AM
Writing can be a catharsis for many people.
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 10:53:06 AM
yeah therapy and catharsis are valid point
but my character is about 18 and he learned to read and write from a bookshop keeper so what could be his reasons
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Post by: JewelAS53 on July 26, 2013, 12:37:09 PM
artists of most kinds are born out of trauma, so the writing could be because of a bad past rather than about it?
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Post by: 2par on July 26, 2013, 01:07:26 PM
One of the first things one is taught about writing is to Write What You Know.
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Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 01:08:46 PM
Never write about your own experiences.

...Write about your friends ;-P


Title: Re: why would a person write about his past ?
Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 01:09:18 PM
my MC has to write his story that's the problem, I have to find the reason why he does it
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Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 01:13:02 PM
One of the first things one is taught about writing is to Write What You Know.

LOL. Which is a considerable draw back when it comes to fiction. :-D
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 01:14:42 PM
One of the first things one is taught about writing is to Write What You Know.

but that depends upon trauma ,my MC was abandoned at birth ,forced to do prostitution.  I am trying to find the reason why he would write about his past because these kind of things you don't write.

I was thinking that he should write the story as if it was of someone else, could it work ?
Title: Re: why would a person write about his past ?
Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
LOL. Which is a considerable draw back when it comes to fiction. :-D
Nah man, I don't think so it depends how you use your past experience
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Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
my MC has to write his story that's the problem, I have to find the reason why he does it

Yep. Motivation is everything. The story is always about why people do the things they do. Plot is merely what your characters ended-up doing--but when put into the context of what drove them to do those things...now there's a story.    
Title: Re: why would a person write about his past ?
Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 01:19:26 PM
Nah man, I don't think so it depends how you use your past experience

Yeah...use them as a guide for applying theme(s).
Title: Re: why would a person write about his past ?
Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 01:21:47 PM
In MY MC past he loved a little girl and wanted to tell her stories so she could sleep but was never able to ,Could I use this
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Post by: hillwalker3000 on July 26, 2013, 01:25:28 PM
but that depends upon trauma ,my MC was abandoned at birth ,forced to do prostitution.  I am trying to find the reason why he would write about his past because these kind of things you don't write.

I was thinking that he should write the story as if it was of someone else, could it work ?

I'm not into 'Mis-Lit', but I don't quite understand the logic behind this statement ^^^. Are you saying it's in bad taste to write about one's abusive past in case it upsets certain readers? How would fictionalising the 'history' make it more palatable?

H3K
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Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
In MY MC past he loved a little girl and wanted to tell her stories so she could sleep but was never able to ,Could I use this

For what...as the reason he's been strangling children: so he can read them a bed-time story? Now that's some motivation.
Title: Re: why would a person write about his past ?
Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 01:30:34 PM
I was talking from the perspective of the MC, His abusive past would make him vulnerable to people's mockery , People would only see him as a prostitute even though he was forced into it

fictionalizing would save him from this.
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Post by: bri h on July 26, 2013, 01:34:13 PM
Most of my writing here is in memoir form. I try to take an amusing stance, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I write because it has to be written, both for me(catharsis) and hopefully for the people around me who may get a better understanding of who I am. I'm not ashamed of my past.(I didn't do anything), (it was done to me).
Should I be ashamed of writing about it?(like you're implying) Hell no!
IMO, your mc would want to shout out loud and tell everyone of his life. So let him. B
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 01:35:06 PM
For what...as the reason he's been strangling children: so he can read them a bed-time story? Now that's some motivation.

Nah he was never able to read her a story because of being illiterate, but now he could write it so wrote her story.

It sounded better in my head but it doesn't make any sense ,what should I do ?  
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 01:37:51 PM
your mc would want to shout out loud and tell everyone of his life. So let him. B

His past is like a fuel ,I need the right igniter.
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Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
Most of my writing here is in memoir form. I try to take an amusing stance, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I write because it has to be written, both for me(catharsis) and hopefully for the people around me who may get a better understanding of who I am. I'm not ashamed of my past.(I didn't do anything), (it was done to me).
Should I be ashamed of writing about it?(like you're implying) Hell no!
IMO, your mc would want to shout out loud and tell everyone of his life. So let him. B


You know that old saying that everyone has a story to tell...?

That doesn't mean that they should be the ones to write it. :-)
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Post by: bri h on July 26, 2013, 01:53:59 PM

You know that old saying that everyone has a story to tell...?

That doesn't mean that they should be the ones to write it. :-)

Interesting viewpoint Neghe. Who should then? Are you going to write the various stories of my life for me? Whoopee. ha ha. I'm goin fishin Neg, let me know when it's finished. ha ha. B
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Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 01:55:48 PM
For what...as the reason he's been strangling children: so he can read them a bed-time story? Now that's some motivation.

That was funny folks. :-|


But I was pointing right at a problem with the way many people stumble over in writing fiction. Plot is always easy. It's the human equation that gets everything all tangled up into a giant mess. People notice that there is something missing in their story so they start adding more plot...wrong.  The missing substance is human interaction/complication/interference/selfish actions...whatever.

See how simple a plot like...this guy is raised in prostitution (and all the abuse that that lintels) then there is this one prefect moment in time--that was interrupted (the almost simple act of reading a child to sleep) now that becomes not only a shining moment of things that could have been but also, an example of everything that is wrong with his life--or life in general--so he recreates this perfect moment over and over...is.

See...simple plot, major possibilities for human complications.  

    
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 01:56:29 PM
guys concentrate on the problem
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Post by: bri h on July 26, 2013, 01:58:18 PM
guys concentrate on the problem

Remind me again what the problem is? I thought we'd answered it. B
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Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 02:02:18 PM
Interesting viewpoint Neghe. Who should then? Are you going to write the various stories of my life for me? Whoopee. ha ha. I'm goin fishin Neg, let me know when it's finished. ha ha. B

:-D I'm saying that you should write stories--and let your personal experiences guide the way you handle the way your chanters see/act/think/feel about the situations they find themselves in.
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
What is the trigger that forces him to write

Your answer was too vague "Yeah every story is waiting to be told"

You know why I started writing in my country there are two types of education boards ,One local and one foreign
I studied at the foreign board and when I was about to enter university ,the entry test was from local board in every fucking university ,
My education simply saying fucked me ,that was my trigger to writing
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Post by: bri h on July 26, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
Ah I see, then I will. Dammit!(puts the fishing gear away and gets back to the typing). Good thread btw. B
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Post by: bri h on July 26, 2013, 02:11:13 PM
What is the trigger that forces him to write

Your answer was too vague "Yeah every story is waiting to be told"

You know why I started writing in my country there are two types of education boards ,One local and one foreign
I studied at the foreign board and when I was about to enter university ,the entry test was from local board in every fucking university ,
My education simply saying fucked me ,that was my trigger to writing

Wanna know something? I actually thought I was good at written English, Oral and grammar till I came here to mwc and found out how bad I really was. I too lacked proper education. Once I found out my problem here, and was shown the correct way(Shvon, Hilly, Wolfe, Alice, Dawn, and Ma . . . the list is quite a long one) that's when the real writing started. I still reckon that the best thing I've done for ages, was to come here. Start writing. Get it done, worry about whether you shoulda written it, AFTER it's written. B
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Post by: LRSuda on July 26, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
Augustin Burroughs took his traumatic past and turned it into several novels, one of which was made into the movie Running With Scissors and based on the book of the same name. (The book was better.  ;))

Anyway, it could be you're getting too hung up on why your character writes about his past. Everyone who does so has different reasons. I don't think "why" even should be explained. It can too easily come off as talking down to readers. Trust them to come up with their own reasons why. They will.
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 02:17:19 PM
basically your trigger was you were not good enough in English
I need his trigger here his the outline of his past hope it could help

 
Title: Re: why would a person write about his past ?
Post by: Neghe on July 26, 2013, 02:18:38 PM
guys concentrate on the problem

That problem is that you are writing a story with a per-set agenda attached to it--and therefore you have all these expectations that are not being fulfilled. Set this story aside and write the your story. The one that you are dying to write. The one that got you all tied-up, frustrated, and pissed off. Get that out of the way then maybe you can write a story for the story's sake.  
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 02:20:37 PM
by the way its a movie, My english is not good enough for novels

but I wont feel satisfied if I let it that way
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
That problem is that you are writing a story with a per-set agenda attached to it--and therefore you have all these expectations that are not being fulfilled. Set this story aside and write the your story. The one that you are dying to write. The one that got you all tied-up, frustrated, and pissed off. Get that out of the way then maybe you can write a story for the story's sake.  

Aye Aye Captain ,I will go with the flow
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Post by: bri h on July 26, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
'raped day after day but remains firm?' (sorry, but that was so funny)

Mebbee take out 'firm' and put in 'resolute.' B

My point is . . . write it, then edit all the inconsistencies out. Then re-edit it. Talking the subject to death, like you're doing is interesting. But you won't know how it is, till you've written it. IMO. B
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 02:25:22 PM
Thanks For help guys ,I will write it and see how it turns out
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Post by: bri h on July 26, 2013, 02:28:09 PM
Thanks For help guys ,I will write it and see how it turns out

Or you could write it, post it and let US see how it works out, cos with all the talk on it, I'm looking forward to reading it now. B  ;D
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Post by: umair7 on July 26, 2013, 02:29:07 PM
Or you could write it, post it and let US see how it works out, cos with all the talk on it, I'm looking forward to reading it now. B  ;D


I will
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Post by: bonitakale on July 28, 2013, 01:18:32 PM

Anyway, it could be you're getting too hung up on why your character writes about his past. Everyone who does so has different reasons. I don't think "why" even should be explained. It can too easily come off as talking down to readers. Trust them to come up with their own reasons why. They will.

This is good. How many stories start, or need to start, with, "I'm writing this down because..." The first-person thing is a convention and doesn't need explanation.
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Post by: Lin on August 06, 2013, 11:13:44 AM
A book I am writing is INSPIRED by a true story.  It doesn't have to be the full truth and nothing but the truth.  You can dip in and out of it to make it fictionalised.  The people don't have to be the real people involved in the true version, make them up but perhaps use their clothing style or the way they have their hair cut but nothing personal.  Use the past as inspiration for a novel and change everything but use some of the incidents to make the story sound more authentic.  That's what I've done and I have to say after reading it back, it seems to bring the story to life. 

Lin x