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Writing => Self-Publishing Central => Topic started by: ed on August 21, 2012, 01:10:02 PM

Title: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: ed on August 21, 2012, 01:10:02 PM
Want to just get feedback from those what you tend to be looking for, changing or working on in your 2nd draft? ( are you pretty much reading it through and adding more description, taking out description, fixing grammar issues etc?)

Also anyone using any good editors. I know lin mentioned one and I will probably contact them but interested in knowing who you have used in the past

Also what you think is a good price to pay for editor for a novel that is around 75,000 words?

cheers
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: ed on August 21, 2012, 02:28:23 PM
I'll add any resources I find that I thought were useful

This one was quite good for after 1st draft

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CFgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdarcypattison.com%2FAfterTheFirstDraft.pdf&ei=E9IzUPTqJsPkywH0ooAI&usg=AFQjCNE7jae8lnSyeZ-_PRwl7B7ikv61LQ
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: ed on August 23, 2012, 12:16:17 PM
Amazing how much you see when you convert your doc to a PDF and then read it. I do this with my clients work before handing it to them and 100% of the time find errors.

Its like PDF shows your writing in a slightly different view
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: heidi52 on August 23, 2012, 12:39:56 PM
Sad to say, reading a printout of the PDF will often point out even more.

I think the computer hides some of them.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: ed on August 23, 2012, 05:52:21 PM
Sad to say, reading a printout of the PDF will often point out even more.

I think the computer hides some of them.  ;D ;D

May do that down at  local store, would cost a fair packet printing 300 odd pages off
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: 510bhan on August 23, 2012, 06:24:43 PM
May do that down at  local store, would cost a fair packet printing 300 odd pages off

 . . . and you will do it a few times over if you want to give your mss a thorough check. ;)

Usually after what you think is your final draft and then maybe just some individual pages . . . if you haven't wrecked your page numbering system when you print off the final, final draft. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: ed on August 23, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
. . . and you will do it a few times over if you want to give your mss a thorough check. ;)

Usually after what you think is your final draft and then maybe just some individual pages . . . if you haven't wrecked your page numbering system when you print off the final, final draft. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ah i haven't numbered anything yet. I have a rough format i.e borders, double spaced, font 12 etc but I am leaving the typesetting and final formatting to after the editor goes through it.

Here is my current process:

Right now I have it in PDF format, reading through, correcting errors as I go in the word doc and marking down on a seperate paper areas that need to either be improved or removed or moved around. ( long old process... urgghhhhhh!! )

Next step will be to do those improvements

Then i will read through again, this time marking the areas where the chapters will be ( right now I just have it in scenes ) I will create the chapter areas.

After that I will go back through again to see if there are any more improvements I can make

Then I will hand it over to 3 people to proofread ( each will take 100 pages ) after they are done

I will then hire an editor to go through it

Once back I will go through it one final time.

Then I will have someone get it ready for amazon and smashwords
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: 510bhan on August 23, 2012, 06:49:04 PM
An editor will probably want numbered pages. ;D

Even samples sent have to have numbered pages. :)
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: ed on August 24, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
An editor will probably want numbered pages. ;D

Even samples sent have to have numbered pages. :)

Well only takes a few seconds to add that in in word before i send over
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: ed on August 24, 2012, 02:48:05 PM
Finally got through 1 entire reading, fixed a lot of errors in the document as i went. Took me a day and half of reading.

Jotted down other notes and now to make those changes. Long old process.
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: Gyppo on August 24, 2012, 06:25:03 PM
Jotted down other notes and now to make those changes. Long old process.

The pursuit of excellence was always thus  ;-)

The computer may make some things easier, but it doesn't make them any less exacting if you take your work seriously.

Gyppo
Title: Re: 2nd draft and editors
Post by: Joe Mynhardt on August 25, 2012, 12:49:43 AM
I convert my word files to Kindle format and read it from there. So many mistakes. Then I send them to a couple of proofreaders (lots of mistakes again), and then I read the entire thing on the Kindle again. Just one or two mistakes or rewording and then it's ready.