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Title: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 08, 2009, 08:19:13 PM
Hey, guys!  :)

I recently posted a thread asking whether my title (Blood Revolution) for my vampire novel, was eye-catching or not. A lot of people said that the title was good, but they suggested others that seemed to work better.
Thatollie also suggested that I post a poll. So I am!  ;D

Here is a reminder of the summary of the plot for my novel:
Well, the main idea of the story is about vampires. Obviously.
These vampires do not live with humans and try to hide themselves away from the rest of the world.
However, there is one vampire who is a scientist and he starts to experiment on humans, because he has an idea whether he could create another kind of vampire-race.
A lot of the experiments go wrong, but finally he manages to create a hybrid vampire. The scientist goes crazy with power and ends up creating a whole army of these hybrids. The hybrids are much stronger than 'normal' vampires and are deadly creatures. The scientist  wants to take over the world, but the 'normal' vampires go against him. 
Towards the end the vampires and hybrids go to war with each other...

Please vote for your favourite title!
And I just want to thank everyone who commented on my thread and suggested such good titles. They were so good, I didn't know which one to choose!  :D

Emma x x x
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 08, 2009, 11:10:07 PM
Emma, I don't see how to change my vote, but I want to vote for Gyppo's, so I'll just say it.  I think it is really good.  (Blood Feud)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: Matt Walker on May 09, 2009, 05:05:20 AM
I went for Bad Blood because I like the alliteration  ;D
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: Snowe on May 09, 2009, 09:17:15 AM
Voted for Blood Uprising, it kinda gives the reader a brief idea about the story.

How bout Bloody Rebellion? I think that sounds good.

Just a suggestion.


-Snowe
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 09, 2009, 02:46:06 PM
I don't see a revolt or rebellion going on here, so uprising does not seem to fit.  Also, it's abstract.  But if you do go that way, leave off the y on Bloody and keep it short:

Blood Rising
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: amytron on May 09, 2009, 08:26:02 PM
Not on the list but, based on the previous post to this, I personally like Rising Blood. Probably because of the phrase 'rising damp' which makes it kind of a play on words. Good luck with your novel, vampires are always a winner!  :)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 10, 2009, 07:57:07 AM
Thanks you all for voting!  ;D

Emma, I don't see how to change my vote, but I want to vote for Gyppo's, so I'll just say it.  I think it is really good.  (Blood Feud)

Eric, for some reason it won't let me change the settings of the poll so I can let people change their vote. I'll have to try again later.

How bout Bloody Rebellion?

Thank you for the suggestion, Snowe. But, I agree with Eric. There isn't really a rebellion going on. The book is just mainly based on the fact that a new species has been created, and are planning on going to war with the rest of the world. They plan on capturing more humans to create an even bigger race of hybrids. However, the vampires go against them and that is how the war starts.
Which is why I like Blood Feud (thanks Gyppo  :)). It just makes complete sense. Yet again, I like New Blood as well, because that also makes sense about the new species.

And thank you, amytron for your suggestion.
I will definitely have to think a lot about this. Who knew that a title could be such hard work?  :D
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 10, 2009, 11:42:19 AM
Time to write your book now, dear.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 10, 2009, 05:44:11 PM
Hm, well I'm thinking that it's going to be just a little more difficult to write the book than figuring out the title... heh.
I haven't actually managed to write a lot these past few weeks; I've been a little distracted.   :D
But, I think I will get back into the swing of it soon. Maybe when life calms down a little.

I think knowing the title helps you to think more of the plot, to make it work more I guess. That's why I wanted to know what people thought.
I'm glad I did post this, because you have all helped me to figure out some things and tie some loose ends. Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 16, 2009, 06:14:42 AM
Okay, well it looks like there is a tie between the two titles:

1. Bad Blood
2. Blood Feud

I know on the poll it says that Bad Blood has 4 votes, and Blood Feud only has two. But, Eric changed his vote from Bad Blood to Blood Feud, so that makes it a tie.

Darn... I don't know which one to choose!  :D
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: Hypothesis on May 16, 2009, 09:59:57 PM
I voted Blood Feud because it brings to mind of two opposing sides, possibly related to each other in some way (Family Feuds like in Romeo and Juliet or something else) while Bad Blood just suggests that someone, somewhere (single protagonist) had a disagreement that escalated into a conflict. I feel that the former fits the plot of the novel (hybrid vamps against normal vamps) than the latter, but that's just me.  :-X
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: Gyppo on May 17, 2009, 08:08:09 AM

Darn... I don't know which one to choose!  :D

Just call it 'My Bloody Book' for now and get on with writing it ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 17, 2009, 12:07:28 PM
I agree with Gyppo!  Although I can barely remember what I learned of young women and their distractions back in the day, knowing what I know of you I rather doubt your life will ever calm down again -- or at least anytime soon.  That's not an excuse to keep from writing, though.  Someday you will write your book(s), and you'll want to use both those titles.  In the meantime, a provisional bloody mess will do quite well for the work in progress ...
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 18, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
Thanks for your vote and your view, Hypothesis!  :)
Yes, I think Blood Feud will do well for this book.

Maybe I could use Bad Blood for the next book I will write. I will definitely be writing a few more books to make a series.
 
Just call it 'My Bloody Book' for now and get on with writing it ;-)

 ;D I'm starting to write more now. I just didn't have time before, so I thought I would concentrate on something less demanding, such as the title. It actually has got me more motivated.

Although I can barely remember what I learned of young women and their distractions back in the day, knowing what I know of you I rather doubt your life will ever calm down again -- or at least anytime soon.

I agree, Eric. I don't think my life will calm down much too soon, either. I think it will get even busier, especially in the summer.
But, you're right. I need to write more. So I am.  ;D

Thank you to everyone for commenting and voting on the title choices!  :)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: lozbud on May 23, 2009, 04:00:36 AM
Hey Emma

Good idea to have the poll but i guess i would be a hypocrite if i didn't vote for my idea "Blood Creations" still seems to make the most sense to me, but that's me  ;D

Definitly agree though that you need to get stuck into the writing and maybe it will just present itself to you as you go.

loz :)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 23, 2009, 12:00:53 PM
Thank you for your vote, loz!  :)

I like Blood Creations, but people have said that short titles are more effective...

Well, I am writing a lot now. But this is just the way I work. I find it better to have a title for the story I am writing, because it gives me more motivation to make it into something more concrete. It helps me with the plot too, so that I don't stray off onto something different. This just makes it more concrete for me, more... stable, so to say.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 23, 2009, 12:15:22 PM
The problem with Blood Creations is that it doesn't really say anything.  Creations is a highly abstract word with a pretty obscure meaning, due to the pluralization.  Also, it is a bit long as you say, E.

I like all the others, think they could be segment titles for an ongoing series almost.  I would change the one long one, Blood Uprising, though ... to something snappier like Blood Risen or Blood Uprise I guess.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 23, 2009, 12:30:33 PM
Hm, I think you're right Eric.
Sorry, loz!

Eric is very smart on this stuff -- abstractions, obscure meanings, etc. -- so he knows what he's talking about.

This title seems to have the same problems as my original title, "Blood Revolution". I realised that people would look for a simpler title, and I think Blood Feud works best at this.

Well, I guess I could use the rest of the titles for an ongoing series, but I will most likely have very different plots in the rest of the books, to make the series more exciting and interesting to read. I may need new titles, but some of these might work for other plots too.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: lozbud on May 24, 2009, 03:15:21 AM
Hey Emma

Thats cool I'll probably get over it after a while :'(

I am more than interested in others opinions and am certainly here to listen. I have only been writing for not quite 3 years now and so have much to learn. I am absolutely lapping up the knowledge and skills that seem to be on display here.

Anyway had a few drinks so thats a bit of a ramble lol

Loz  :)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 24, 2009, 04:07:26 PM
I am absolutely lapping up the knowledge and skills that seem to be on display here.

Me too!  ;D

I do like your title as I said, so I may use it for another book in the series. I just think Gyppo's title, "Blood Feud", is just perfect for this plot and very effective.  :)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: Cheerie on May 27, 2009, 01:54:18 AM
Hiya!

Not to be a cynic or anything, but have you considered calling it Blade 2?

Sorry, couldn't resist! Seriously though, you might want to have a quick watch of that movie, in case your work invites comparisons. It might also furnish you with some ideas - mostly on what not to do, since the movie is so appalling!  :0)
Tony
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: Cheerie on May 27, 2009, 03:46:31 AM
Oh, also I had a thought on the name front. Presumably the cover illustration, blurb etc, will immediately suggest to a reader that the book is about Vampires; the use of 'blood' in the title might actually be unnecessary. As a word it's probably quite over used in the titles of vampire books. Blood Feud is very catchy, but a search on Amazon revealed 4 pages of different books called Blood Feud, or with Blood Feud in the title.
As a possible alternative, you could consider naming the book after the hybrid race it features, as this will also tie the title closer to the subject of the book. Say for example your scientist named the hybrid creatures 'Drinkers', this gives all sorts of possible options, such as "Drinkers Dawn", "Rise of the Drinkers" or "Drinkers Awake!".  - I know, sounds like an advert for Alcoholics Anonymous, but try substituting the Vampiric monster name of your creation and you'll end up with something far more original for a title - or if nothing else, a sub-title as in "Blood Feud: Rise of the Raveiners".
Hope this helps!
(If not, forget I said anything - most people generally do!)
:0)
Tony
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 27, 2009, 09:09:14 AM
Hey, Tony.  :)

No, I haven't seen Blade 2. I just looked at a review of the film and well, looks like I might have to change a few things in my book!  :-\
Thank you so much for telling me about this, because now I know that my idea isn't that original. It's strange how I almost got the full idea of that film, without me even watching it... Darn.  :D

Blood Feud is very catchy, but a search on Amazon revealed 4 pages of different books called Blood Feud, or with Blood Feud in the title.

I didn't know this either. Now I know to definitely do more research before I start writing! Thanks again, Tony.  :)
Well, that leaves me with the title Bad Blood. I'll have to check whether this has been used too.  ;D

I know it is kind of obvious to have the word "blood" in the title. But, it's just always stuck with my work. It's just something that I want in the title.

I will try to come up with a name for the hybrids. That was a good idea. I think that might work better actually.  :)

Thank you so much for pointing those out for me. You've been a great help!  ;D
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: Matt Walker on May 27, 2009, 09:20:52 AM
And plus Bad Blood is better  ;D
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 27, 2009, 09:22:21 AM
Well, a lot of people seem to think so, because it is doing well in the poll.

 ;D ;D

Thank you, Eric, for this suggestion.  :)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 27, 2009, 09:56:31 AM
Well, you're welc, and I have to say Tony had some good ideas.  Don't particularly think his title suggestion sounds too original, but you'll find "bad blood" is an American expression (and maybe an English one) of much currency, too.  I don't know how much it's been used in titles.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 27, 2009, 09:59:25 AM
Isn't it annoying the way you work out a good premise for your book, and here Hollywood has come up with the almost same thing in a crappy package just two weeks earlier?  Makes you want to shoot a producer sometimes, or sick a vampire on him at the very least.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 27, 2009, 10:37:00 AM
I know!  >:(

Makes me wish that my hybrids were real. Maybe they could go to war with the producers.
:o
Great idea for a book!

 ;D ;D

Hybrids: Attack on the Producers.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 27, 2009, 10:47:40 AM
Oh, darn!!  :-[

I just looked on Amazon and typed in "Bad Blood". Looks like there is a few books named after that title too...  :-\
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 27, 2009, 12:43:09 PM
It doesn't really matter if your title's been done before.  What matters is how inventive and fresh your story is.  So write the thing, dear.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 27, 2009, 03:44:31 PM
So write the thing, dear.

I am. Don't worry.  ;D

Thank you to everyone for their help. You've all given me great ideas!  :)
And thank you for voting.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: lozbud on May 27, 2009, 05:14:41 PM
Hey Emma

 personally wouldn't worry to much about your story being along the same idea as Blade 2. I think thats a good thing it means it works. No two people if they took the exact same idea and both wrote their own novel around that idea would come up with the same book. I read a lot of books on writing and it seems to be across the board other writers telling you to study works similiar to yours.

Don't be too discouraged, just go for it, I am sure as you get further into your writing your novel will develop quite differently.

Loz  :)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 27, 2009, 05:31:25 PM
Oh yes, I agree. I know that two people who write about the same plot would both make it totally different. I know mine will obviously be different. I'm not worried too much, I just didn't know that my story wasn't original.  :D

Like Eric said, it's just a little annoying. I'm sure everything will turn out well with it anyway. I wrote some more on it today, and the description is going well. Although I've been told not to write too much description, so I might have to post some of my work on here to see if I have gone a little overboard...  ;D

Thanks, loz.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: Matt Walker on May 28, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
The thing is Em, I don't think there are truly original stories any more. When you look at the phenomenon of Harry Potter being based around a wizard school - It's almost exactly the same as The Worst Witch of Cackles Academy, or Trudi Canavan's "The Magician's Guild" trilogy, or the unseen university of the Discworld...
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 28, 2009, 10:07:03 AM
Hmmm, that's very true Walkio, there is nothing new under the sun.  I think Ecclesiastes said it first.
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 28, 2009, 10:09:51 AM
The thing is Em, I don't think there are truly original stories any more. When you look at the phenomenon of Harry Potter being based around a wizard school - It's almost exactly the same as The Worst Witch of Cackles Academy, or Trudi Canavan's "The Magician's Guild" trilogy, or the unseen university of the Discworld...

Yes, you're right Matt.
It is nice to know though that maybe, just maybe, your story might have a totally new idea in it... I know that's very unlikely now.

Anyway, all that matters is how you write it, not what you write. So, if I keep that in mind then the plot of my book should unfold quite well, as many plots do for other people.

And I never knew that Harry Potter was so similar to other books... Thanks for telling me.  :)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: eric on May 28, 2009, 10:18:47 AM
Heh, well, you might create a one-eyed, one-nosed, flying purple people eater ... but of course that's been done ... yet if you change him to orange, and give him horns ... hmm ... possibilities
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 28, 2009, 10:19:55 AM
Heh, well, you might create a one-eyed, one-nosed, flying purple people eater ... but of course that's been done ... yet if you change him to orange, and give him horns ... hmm ... possibilities

 :D :D
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 28, 2009, 12:14:50 PM
So, I've looked on the internet for some tips on how to choose a good book title. This is to help me, and obviously anyone else who wants help in choosing a title. Here's what I found:

Catchy
Your book title should be catchy and grab the attention of the potential reader. Remember it’s going to be on the shelf with thousands of other books and your title can help your book stand out from the other books.

Appropriate
Your book title should fit the book. It should give the potential reader a clue about what the book will be about. Calling a book “Wild Horses” or “Love Of The Rose” when the book is about auto racing wouldn’t be an appropriate choice and wouldn’t do an effective job of targeting your market. Your title is your first hint to the reader about what’s to come when they pick up your book.

Keep It Short
Your book title should portray a message but not be too long as to bore the potential reader. It should be of a length that can be read at a glance and require no time at all for it to register with the brain. Short and simple works best.

Compelling
Your book title should compel the potential reader to want to pick up the book and find out more about it. It should initiate a response of interest and curiosity. Once they pick up the book your jacket cover can complete the job of convincing them your story is worth buying and reading.

Non Offensive
Your book title should not be offensive to any one culture. You should be careful that none of the words or phrases have a negative connotation or meaning in another language, especially if you will be marketing your book on a global scale.

Descriptive Words
Your book title should use descriptive words that clearly convey what you are selling, in this case it’s your story. By using descriptive content your potential reader is more likely to be drawn to and pick your book up for further examination.

Mystery And Intrigue
If appropriate for the subject of the book, why not use a little mystery and intrigue in the title? After all, which title would you be more inclined to pick up? “Who Killed Inspector Gadget” or “Mr. Gadget Died”? Your title is a bit like the sales pitch of an advertisement. In an add it’s the first line that hooks you. In your book it’s your title that needs to set the hook.

I may set up a new thread with this information, just to help people who want a title for their book, and so they don't have to search through all my mumbo-jumbo to find it.  ;)
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: curtism on May 29, 2009, 11:40:00 PM
Hey Emma,

  "BLOOD UPRISING" is an I catcher for one, plus it fits the book. A new blood causes an uprising for a new breed of vampires.

Curtism
Title: Re: Title for my Vampire Novel
Post by: emma112 on May 31, 2009, 03:46:14 PM
Thank you for your vote and your opinion, Curtism!  ;D