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Title: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: DwWin on August 27, 2007, 03:31:32 AM
I don't know if anyone else read the article in one of the newspapers over the weekend where it was proposed that CCTV be put into the homes of drug addicts to help protect the children? I am all for anything that will help to protect the weak and the innocent but what comes next? CCTV in the homes of known alcoholics? CCTV in the homes of known criminals? Oh the hell just put it in every home "for the protection of the people from the people".

We spend enough time on CCTV everyday just walking down the high streets of Britain and I for one do not want to appear on "Big Brother".
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Mark H on August 27, 2007, 03:53:44 AM
I can see it now, drug crazed lunatic picks up his machete and thinks, no, better not, I’m on CCTV.

Of course they could use those new cameras with the built in speakers so the highly trained (but minimum wage) negotiators in the control centre can speak to said nutter.

“You!, Yes you, the nutter with machete. Put it down and lay on the floor. The police should be with you in a couple of hours.”

Citabria
Libertarian 8)
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Symphony on August 27, 2007, 04:02:40 AM
Yep! We live in a society of paranoids already what with parents and teachers not allowed to control their children, kids not allowed to play conkers and forbidden other normal behaviour. What more can we expect? No wonder there are so many loonies around.

I can just hear Big Brother now ...

Our Father,
Who art watching me on CCTV ...

Can you imagine? Elevator music in MacDonalds will be replaced by lists of ingredients and calories in every bite ...

Elrons taking over the world ...

Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Gyppo on August 27, 2007, 07:07:34 AM
Oh yes...  Join with me in the fondly remembered and often parodied TV jingle (which is about to receive another kicking)...

"A million dumb Chavs every day,
pick up a tin of beans and say...
'Ere, Gar!  What the F*** am I supposed to do with this?"

And the automated tele-visual display unit on the microwave picks up on the anguished cry and runs a little loop of idiot-proof instructions, a sort of 'opening by mumbers' with Ant & Bloody-Dec alternating every word - even breaking long words in two if they find them too difficult to complete individually - as they explain the complicated process of 'beating the ring pull opener without snapping it off'.

Then a third voice chips in and says...

"Alternatively, you could put it in a sock to create a makeshift weapon and mug some rich git for the price of a MacDonalds."

Then Ant & Dec can come back and explain what a sock is.

You could even have a digital re-make of some Blue Peter classics, with Valerie Singleton and John Noakes  demonstrating the 'can in a sock' cosh.  "...so here's one we made earlier..."

The only problem with Utopias is we all want a different version.

As Shakespeare said, "Ah, but there's the rub..."

And as Tom Lehrer said...  "When the bomb falls you will all proceed directly to your respective Valhallas.  Do not pass 'Go!'  Do not collect 200 dollars!"

Gyppo
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Symphony on August 27, 2007, 10:04:06 AM
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Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Mark H on August 27, 2007, 10:11:35 AM
Gyppo,

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The only problem with Utopias is we all want a different version.

You think that NOW but wait till the geneticists have done with you. You’ll be rushing down to the barber for a proper non-hippy haircut so fast, your loafers won’t touch the (extremely clean) pavement.

Enjoy it while you can dude.

Sinf,

Your head appears to have fallen off!

M
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: McWawa on August 27, 2007, 04:05:47 PM
Isn't this a Google.Yourhouse    thing.
Where everyone's supposedly  so proud to be seem on screen. Look what we're doing, or not !  Granny can google in at any time and watch from the old folks home too.How exciting.
Remember , if you're not doing anything wrong then you aint got nothing to hide ! and if you want to hide then you must doing something wrong.
How many people ( the service will be privatised i'm sure) does it take to monitor 20 million homes or more? ? Or would the very notion that anyone , official or member of the public, could tune into our homes at any time ensure that we would all behave..... just in case we might have online visitors.
 edit: of course we know it's a recipe for anarchy; look what the kids are already video-ing themselves doing and putting up on the net and sms texting around.Well i haven't looked, but have read about.It just encourages them when they got an audience !
I'm off to the hills.


bryan
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Gyppo on August 27, 2007, 04:37:55 PM
Gyppo,

You think that NOW but wait till the geneticists have done with you. You’ll be rushing down to the barber for a proper non-hippy haircut so fast, your loafers won’t touch the (extremely clean) pavement.

Enjoy it while you can dude.


This assumes that cropped-heads will be the design standard.  It ain't necessarily so ;-)  And even if it is they'll need to keep a few old hairies around to frighten the kids, to remind them what can happen if they don't toe the party line.

And if I don't achieve 'treasured old weirdo' status I'll head for the hills.  I haven't spent the last 56 years learning all kinds of useful skills in order to just throw them away and bloody conform.  There will always be people who slip through the net in any system, and I've trained to be one of them.  At the end of the day - if all else fails - I'd rather take the final opt-out than swallow the 'pseudo-happy pills'.  No 'behaviour modified' half-life for me.

Gyppo   
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: DwWin on August 28, 2007, 07:40:36 AM
Gypo,

I like the way you think, which set of hills would you head for?
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Mark H on August 28, 2007, 07:44:22 AM
Gyppo

Don’t tell him/her. Remember; trust no one!

Mark
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Gyppo on August 28, 2007, 09:12:45 AM
Sorry DWin, even immediate family aren't au fait with my 'running plans'.  They'll find out on a 'need to know' basis.  It won't be The Brecons though, because they'll be crawling with ex-SAS runaways, digging up the private stuff they've previously hidden during 'exercises'.  On the other hand the previous sentence could be a double or even triple bluff...

Gyppo
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: DC on August 28, 2007, 02:44:42 PM
Don't forget, you also have to watch all those who drink... what is it?... more than five 'units' of alcohol in one session? (One 'unit' being half a pint.)

Oh dear, on my average two-monthly visits to the pub, I usually sink four or five pints of Guinness. Looks like I'm a 'binge drinker'!  I guess that taking an hour to wobble home what should be a twenty minute walk along a country road is the height of anti-social behaviour. Hope there's room left in tham thar hills...

Dave.
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: McWawa on August 28, 2007, 03:11:07 PM
With such names as The Pugin Room bar,Members' Smoking Room , Strangers' Bar, Terrace Bar, Annie's Bar and the Press Bar, I'm inclined to think that the expression "binge" drinking has it's origins at the Houses of Parliament. When after a long day of doing nothing but talking and debating all retired to the bars  where the cry was "Business Is Now - Generating Exuberance", and they all proceed to get sh*tfaced before heading off to the Wets End.....ooops sorry, driver, West End....where they continue more of the generating  exuberance.

bryan
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: matsamu on August 28, 2007, 05:27:50 PM
Geez...you know where this would be good? The conspiracy topic...i don't know where the link is, and i'm late for Marching Band practice...so...i don't think i'm gonna look for it, but hey...it'd be fun to get taht up and running again.

I did just see 1984 lying on the table the other day, and it got me thinking about the book again. I have to say that i'm not in favor of the CCTV or the Anti-sex league...for the same reasons...ahem.

~matsamu
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: thatollie on August 28, 2007, 09:37:41 PM
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I'd rather take the final opt-out than swallow the 'pseudo-happy pills'.  No 'behaviour modified' half-life for me.

My main character [created before I joined this site] thinks the same way.
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Mark H on August 29, 2007, 02:55:57 AM
Sorry no hills for me, I’m with Cypher on this one. Plug me in and bring on the dancing girls!  8)
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: DwWin on August 29, 2007, 03:12:54 AM
I guess some of us were never meant to be pack animals, too much individuality in our make up, I'm tempted to start heading for the hills now. Rumor has it that after a certain age or stage in life you become an "adult" and leave nannies behind you (reference to the "nanny state" we are fast becoming part of). ;D
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Mark H on August 29, 2007, 03:30:10 AM
When Gordon Brown comes round to my house, makes me spotted dick, reads me a story, tucks me up in bed and gives me a goodnight kiss, I will reject the nanny state and join the old blokes in the hills.

By the way, are we taking any “babes” with us?  ;)

M
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: DwWin on August 29, 2007, 08:14:42 AM
Citabria,

Forget the goodnight kiss, the tucking in and the good night story but I've now got an urge for spotted dick! It'll have to wait until the weekend though (reduced manning of the surveillance personnel on a weekend).
 ;)
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Gyppo on August 29, 2007, 11:52:11 AM
Gordon Brown's spotted dick...? 

Well, Tony promised everyone a steak (or something similar) and then hid himself away in case 56 million people decided to plunge it into his heart at the same time.  Then he finally got 'browned off' and left office.  So perhaps the spotted dick is going to be Gordon's equivalent to Marie Antoinette's "Then let them eat cake.".

Whatever, 'Gordon Brown's spotted dick is a potential nightmare for headline writers.  After all, does it mean...

a)  Gordon has jumped on the Celebrity Chef bandwagon and started selling puddings with his dour visage on the tin?  "A return to solid presbyterian values, stodge for the people."

b)  Is it just a spiked label the staff use in the parliamentarian canteen to ensure that no matter what else may run short there is always a spotted dick for Gordon, just as there used to be a large spike to hold Tony's personal steak?

c)  Or perhaps Gordon peeped out of the window at No 10 and saw a flasher outside?

d)  Is it perhaps the name of a favourite jazz tune, in which case it has nothing at all to do with dicks, spots, or anything much at all?

d)  Or has the Poor Wee Mannie caught some unfortunate 'bedroom disease' on top of all the other problems which welcomed him into office?

Gyppo   
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: matsamu on August 29, 2007, 02:24:59 PM
Spotted dick? Sorry, but in America, we really don't have that cuisine...could someone explain to me exactly what goes into Spotted Dick in terms of food?

And citiabria? the sentence: Now i've got an urge for some spotted dick raises questions in my mind...but then again, that's my american gutter mind at work. Sorry!

~Matsamu
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Mark H on August 29, 2007, 03:16:04 PM
Mats

Try not to get over excited. It makes you eyes go wonky and you get the posts mixed up. :o

It is Dwin that has the urge. ;) All I wanted was a bedtime story and a goodnight kiss from our Prime Minister. :-*

Uhrrr, I wish I hadn’t said that now.

Mark
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: McWawa on August 29, 2007, 03:51:09 PM
'Nuff said.

That leaves the curvaceous landscapes; the glorious ups and downs; the ridges and the valleys; the wonderful beauties of nature all to be enjoyed and appreciated  by  us more mature folk. There's many a cuckoo in the woods at night when you get up in the hills.

bryan


Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: cleopatra on August 29, 2007, 04:00:48 PM
Im all for a cuckoo in the woods bryan 8)(this is a new one on me but Ill try anything once)
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Mark H on August 29, 2007, 04:06:23 PM
We have a saying in England, “Better a cuckoo in the woods than a hand in the bush." Or something like that. ???
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Conanthedoylarian on August 30, 2007, 05:50:42 AM
There will always be people who slip through the net in any system, and I've trained to be one of them.

Gyppo   

Oops ... those who slip through don't normally tell everyone about it first. do they?
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Gyppo on August 30, 2007, 06:32:21 AM
True...  but the me who emerges on the other side won't be easily recognised ;-)

Gyppo
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: cleopatra on August 30, 2007, 08:47:14 AM
We have a saying in England, “Better a cuckoo in the woods than a hand in the bush." Or something like that. ???
I have a strong feeling that this was made up by ------------Mark? 8) but I like it.
You are so like that other Mark-Anthony who came out with great one liners such as,
I asked him where Hadrian's wall was and he said "Round Hadrian's garden' :-*
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: matsamu on August 30, 2007, 12:18:50 PM
I'm sorry citabria. My mistake. And DWin, i turn my previous statement to you....Even though after you gave me the recipe, i can't help that urge myself....

Anyway. Now that my eyes are de-wonkified, what's going on?
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: Mark H on August 30, 2007, 12:33:03 PM
Cleo

Yes you are correct; it was just a play on words on the old Shropshire saying, “A toad in the hole is worth two in the bush.” And trust me that really is true. ;)

Mark
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: DC on August 31, 2007, 02:53:14 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6968591.stm

Scary...

Dave.
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: rewh2oman on August 31, 2007, 03:05:31 PM
sounds like movie "The Truman Show" to me.

...russ
Title: Re: George Orwell, you were right!
Post by: PelleFederica on August 11, 2021, 05:20:00 AM
I don't know if anyone else read the article in one of the newspapers over the weekend where it was proposed that CCTV be put into the homes of drug addicts to help protect the children? I am all for anything that will help to protect the weak and the innocent but what comes next? CCTV in the homes of known alcoholics? CCTV in the homes of known criminals? Oh the hell just put it in every home "for the protection of the people from the people".

We spend enough time on CCTV everyday just walking down the high streets of Britain and I for one do not want to appear on "Big Brother".

Apple is currently doing the same thing with their newest firmware update.. Big Brother will be watching us 24/7 as our "freedom is slavery"..